• @geopoliticssuck
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    The irony of it all. I think Chinese policies have won: cyber-sovereignty, state-owned enterprises, state-backed digital currencies; every industrial bloc is at some point going to adopt Chinese policies because they’re afraid of losing power and control and because the PRC is so powerful.

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    • @TheAnonymouseJokerOPM
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      Chinese policy was always based on strengthening themselves as a country. Americans were busy in a leisure sedentary life, and hurling “commie” and other false narrative abuses at China from their smartphones and couches. This is what happens when you stop improvising.

      If one asks me personally as an Indian, I am glad this American hegemony is breaking, for all the spying, bombing and bullying they did to foreign countries and citizens remotely, while their popular news media keeps spreading hate and false narratives about others.

      One cannot blame China for this, as US is interested in having its cake and eating it too. China banned Facebook because of not complying with stopping ETIM Uighur hate groups, when US is banning TikTok because it is “Chinese” (also that Trump’s rally was ruined by TikTokers).

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        I am glad this American hegemony is breaking, for all the spying, bombing and bullying they did to foreign countries and citizens remotely, while their popular news media keeps spreading hate and false narratives about others.

        I’m in no way defending America’s actions in general, but if you’re expecting whoever fills that power void to be better, I’ve got bad news for you.

        And at least American news media can talk about American sins, unlike Chinese media and Tienanmen Square.

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          I was highly surprised upon detailed research sometime ago by how Tiananmen Square was never a massacre, but some deaths as a result of protest skirmishes, just like regular protests. Even the tankman photo we see from “June 4” is actually a June 5 photo after the protests were done, and is misleading. Western media really blinded us all this while.

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8057762.stm

          https://www.unz.com/article/tiananmen-square-1989-revisited/

          Recommend reading them and telling people about this. Tiananmen Square was not a massacre, and Western MSM misled all of us. I got bad news for you if you think China filling USA’s void would be happy to spread hate about others.

          Also check this out for biased and unbiased media: https://swprs.org/media-navigator/

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            24 years ago

            The article you linked actually says that the reporting understated the reach of the massacre:

            There was no Tiananmen Square massacre, but there was a Beijing massacre.

            Honestly, you seem to have fallen for propaganda, and I doubt any amount of arguing will convince you otherwise.

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              I showed you objective facts about the journalists that reported about Tiananment at that time, with valid photo and other evidence.

              You are the one brainwashed since ages and will refuse to think otherwise, since the West MSM lie has been in front of us for about half a century.

              To see how the June 5 picture is cropped in and misrepresented as “tankman crushed” June 4 photo, among other things, made me open my eyes wide.

        • @geopoliticssuck
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          No one is suggesting that the PRC is going to replace the USA’s position in the world, although the PRC is positioning itself as a regional hegemon in East Asia, just like the USA in the Americas. That being said, I think we’re transitioning from a unipolar world to a multipolar world, which is a good thing in my opinion. So there’s no power void being filled by one hyperpower, but rather global power will be shared, ideally between the USA, EU, the PRC, and other great powers like Russia and India.

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            I mentioned China due to due to the GP comparing America and China. Sure, China might not replace America’s position in the world, but I sincerely doubt that most people that fall under China’s hegemony will appreciate the change. This is also true for other powers such as Russia. I do think the EU would be better hegemonical stewards than America, though.

  • @jsgohac
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    34 years ago

    really sad read, weird digital form of Quigley’s decline of civilization stage where empire fears attack from outside threats.

    Also, this is clown-world: “TikTok will either have to be sold to a US company such as Microsoft …”

    • @TheAnonymouseJokerOPM
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      24 years ago

      It is as clear as the river’s water, that USA is bullying China for nullifying USA’s social media and surveillance dominance, with Huawei not having NSA backdoors, and TikTok not having NSA backdoors either.

      USA wants to destroy competition and free market if it cannot stay supreme.

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    • @TheAnonymouseJokerOPM
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      If Trump gets accidentally re elected, we might see a complete divide of what we know as Internet, and we might probably see full scale development of separate Internets - Chinese, European, US (14 Eyes allies), Russian and possibly Indian (mix of most Internets).

      The Internet could very well be broken forever, and the only unified Internet leftover will be that maintained by FOSS or non political entities, the P2P net and the darknet.

      I suggest data hoarders to get on the current unified Internet and archive and get whatever is important, and individual people to do the same as well. Projects like The Eye will be fundamental to the clearnet as we know it.

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        I don’t think India is capable of creating their own Internet, everyone in India uses US-based apps (Google, Facebook’s WhatsApp, Amazon) and all their best engineers move to the US. I can’t think of one Indian Internet company. It’s really sad for India to be honest.

        Also, 14 Eyes is 5 Eyes + West Europe

        • @TheAnonymouseJokerOPM
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          14 years ago

          India is censoring internet heavily, and might end up with a hybrid weird version of Internet. It is true though that India has a brain drain problem with US indirectly purchasing all Indian engineers.

    • @jsgohac
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      24 years ago

      Thanks for sharing supporting documentation, am starring to read later.

      What is it that may happen in November?

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