• DankZedong
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    These people are chronically online and don’t have a single clue about what it means to meanfully organize. If I’m in my local action group and we’re fighting, for example, against the demolition of some affordable social housing project and in the middle of the meeting I whip out some drugs or something, I’ll get my ass kicked out of the group. Not because they are against drugs, but because you’re not getting anywhere if you see it as a quirky fun little party thing.

    Organizing is a serious thing. You need to study theory, you need to read decisions made by your government, you need to get out and talk to people involved in your case, you need to find ways to tackle the problem, you need to organize large groups of people. If you don’t do these things then you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing.

    Sure, we go to a bar and have some beers or something every now and then but that’s not why we’re in a group.

  • I would start questioning myself as a human being if my entire idea of “fun” consisted of sex, drugs and booze. Are those people living in some kind of idealist haze hangover from 1968?

    Also obligatory reminder that 1968 in many countries was very reactionary.

  • @lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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    132 years ago

    Maoist be like : understanding mechanisms of substance abuse and sexual violence

    Anarchists : i wan hav teh zex n teh wyzzy fuzzy weedy 🤤🤤 no one tell me no tahts autohritriarian 😡

  • @afellowkid@lemmygrad.ml
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    112 years ago

    For understanding more about drug promotion in organizing (the person “going around giving out free ______ at actions”) I found this video/podcast pretty informative:

    “How the CIA Promoted LSD & Hippies”

    Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ZZhKApqvw

    Audio: https://soundcloud.com/unmaskingimperialism/how-the-cia-promoted-lsd-hippies-unmasking-imperialism-ep-69

    Exposing the secret history of the CIA’s involvement in promoting LSD and the hippie movement. During today’s episode, we discuss how the U.S. government has appropriated drugs as weapons against progressive, left-wing, and anti-imperialist movements. We talk about the roots and purpose of Project MKUltra, an illegal human experimentation program carried out by the CIA. We also discuss how key moments in hippie history, like Woodstock and the Summer of Love, were carefully coordinated by U.S. intelligence. Today’s guest is John Potash, the author of “Drugs as Weapons Against Us: The CIA’s Murderous Targeting of SDS, Panthers, Hendrix, Lennon, Cobain, Tupac and other Activists.” John is also the author of “The FBI War on Tupac Shakur: The State Repression of Black Leaders from the Civil Rights Era to the 1990s.” […] He has worked counseling people with mental health problems and addictions for over 25 years.

    • @TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml
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      72 years ago

      A friend of mine credits their leftist journey in part to LSD, which is pretty ironic, lol. They’re not out promoting it or anything just came up in conversation once. Not sure the legitimacy, if they’re just attributing it to the wrong thing or whatever but I find it amusing regardless.

      • @afellowkid@lemmygrad.ml
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        72 years ago

        Individual people will have their own experiences with drugs, and that’s fine. Cases of drugs being a good experience for some person will always be found, along with cases of drug use being a mixed experience, or a destructive and regrettable one for someone else. Its effect on one individual person is not necessarily going to be the same as its cumulative effect on a whole group of people (especially in cases where it is being purposely used as a tactic against organizers). Blanket acceptance or blanket banning of drug use without studying its many forms, facets and effects would be a failure to study the issue scientifically.

        In any case I think it’s good to learn about how drugs can be used as a weapon against revolutionary organizing, such as when it comes to “the person handing out free drugs during organizing”. While I’m sure there’s a few such people out there who just do it for their own reasons, it’s still a known tactic conducted by anti-communist agents, and regardless of the reason someone is doing it, its effect on organizing must also be taken into account.

        (Sorry if my reply sounds overly serious, I can see your comment is kind of lighthearted. This is just how I tend to write most of the time.)

  • That’s why I call them narcos, cause anarchists probably fuel the worldwide drug trade by themselves.

    (and also because they call us tankies)

    • @TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml
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      52 years ago

      What is weed culture?

      What’s wrong with weed?

      Not experienced and don’t think enough about drugs but I’ve been high a few times and it doesn’t seem bad

      • Nothings wrong with weed, if you want to do it, do it, but stfu about it. Weed culture is a lot of things but it boils down to anytime people make it a personality and pretend it’s anything but just one more drug of choice. Like this haha so quirky bluntie shit in the posted tweet.