Source is Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism by Kristen Ghodsee

  • comrade_madoff
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    272 years ago

    Jesus Christs, Europe and then subsequently the West has literally just been planned and run by incels who had too much economic advantage and built a society around protecting their inability to get pussy.

  • KiG V2
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    222 years ago

    Imagine only being able to get with people who like you as a person 🤮

    • @sudojonz@lemmygrad.ml
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      62 years ago

      Yeah seriously.

      When I read OP’s post and got to the “you had to be interesting” part, I thought damn that’s all I have going for me no wealth or status otherwise. Guess I’ll be eternally loveless then!

  • Ratette (she/her)
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    202 years ago

    I saw an interesting statistic that after women were allowed to apply for loans and credit etc in the UK without the man’s permission, divorce rates sky rocketed lmao.

    • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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      142 years ago

      The same thing probably happened in Switzerland, IIRC married women (women period?..) weren’t allowed to have bank accounts until the 1970s if not later.

  • Also Germany was the destination point of much, if not most of people trafficking and sex slavery going in central Europe after the destuction of socialism.

      • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        Yes it is literal colonialism. Less overtly bloody, less gunboats and less open genocide, but scratch it a little and you will find dozens of millions of dead, enslaved, and driven into the utter poverty and depression, entire economies looted.

  • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    102 years ago

    I find the bit about “men returning to their role as patriarchs” to be curious. I’d have expected that a single income was no longer enough to support a family by 1989.

    • lemmygrabberOP
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      132 years ago

      As long as men earn more on average especially when the gender wage gap exists men will have more power than women. Even things like the streets being unsafe for women which inhibits their movement contribute to this. Three are a multitude of other factors too. Poorer households in India are generally very patriarchal despite men and women both working and still not making enough for a respsctable living.

    • @panic@lemmygrad.ml
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      72 years ago

      I found a torrent on The Pirate Bay that took me weeks to finish downloading. I still seed it cause it was so hard to download magnet link. Good luck, I don’t have my computer running all the time but you could get in just a few days if I’m the only one seeder (which I’m not).

        • @panic@lemmygrad.ml
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          32 years ago

          That’s great, I can see new seeders on my torrent client. I’m very accustomed to this torrent’s health, I’ve been seeding it for years now. You’re welcome, communists. I shall be the fifth head.

      • Arthur BesseA
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        22 years ago

        awesome, thanks! somehow it isn’t on the shitty tpb mirror i checked. thanks for the magnet, and seeding it!

        • @panic@lemmygrad.ml
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          32 years ago

          I use thehiddenbay.com

          I take no responsibility over the safety of the site, I use it cause it was the first proxy URL I could remember after I stopped being able to access thepiratebay.org

          We all hate on TPB but it’s got some stuff you won’t find in other public trackers.

    • KiG V2
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      152 years ago

      No it’s real, I’ve actually already read a study prior to this talking about how socialism makes sex better. It was talking less specifically about women being free of financial pressure and more about how, since time isn’t so ruthlessly commodified, everybody enjoys it a little more, since there’s no pressure to rush and get it over with.

      • lemmygrabberOP
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        Yeah. I have linked the source in the post body. It’s also where the famous “women under socialism orgasm’d 70% more frequently” or something like that comes from.

        • @pinkeston@lemmygrad.ml
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          Ngl I really hate how often that study is quoted in communist circles since it feels like biased cherrypicking. It’s not the most rigorous or scientific study and most importantly, I don’t believe anybody ever tried to replicate the study

          I really hope most people get that and are only citing it for light hearted humor and not taking it as a serious piece of scientific evidence

      • @sudojonz@lemmygrad.ml
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        Man this speaks to me a lot. I almost always feel the time pressure with sex, especially after we finish. It’s like there’s a voice in me going “get up and get back to work before you have to live on the street” even when it’s the middle of the night and there is literally nothing better for me to be doing. It’s damn sad.

  • @boston_key_party@lemmygrad.ml
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    -22 years ago

    Involuntary celibacy is a degradation of the material conditions of the (largely) male proletariat and not all incels are reactionary. Whether incels radicalize right or left depends on the state of outreach to them. Please stop punching down on proles for the sex they can’t get and leave incels out of this.

    Capitalism is a loss for the incel community. For-profit food industry results in high obesity rates that turn sex with attractive people into a class privilege for the bourgeioisie. Capitalists steal our labor and use it against us to outcompete us for mating opportunities. We’re too overworked and underpaid to be the kind of interesting people others want to be with. The number of involuntarily celibate men in the USA is at a historic high because of the sharpening contradictions of capitalism. To regard incels as inherently reactionary is to engage in idealist error and forgo opportunities for conducting agitation and propaganda.

    • @Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml
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      Correct in the broad sense. Incels are not our allies and are reactionary, that should be clear, but in terms of finding mates, I believe you are correct in your analysis that capitalism allows a select group (let’s be real, predominantly white wealthy men) access to a larger pool of mates and excludes others in competing.

      This is very important to understand because it provides a (one) biological (scientific) reason for why a class (bourgeoisie) can act the way it does. This is similar to feudalism, where a lord could rape anyone he wanted. Having a material source for the genesis of incels is much more compelling than just “they are weak men who can’t get laid”, which is a position untenable with socialism.

      For specific examples, we can look at how Elon Musk has fathered children with an employee and was recently accused of sexual harassment. And how politicians are involved in the (disgusting) sex trade. We can look at other rich old dudes and see how they pay for testosterone replacement and personal trainers to continue to build muscle mass, which makes them more attractive to mates.

      It is important to stress this is NOT a position sympathetic to Nazis, but an observation of how class affects our biology.

      Thank you for bringing this up, as it was something I was fiddling with in the back of my head recently but figured it too taboo to discuss.