Well his wife is right about one thing, he is a psycho.
Just to be annoying. Even without Marx, I myself intuited the contradictions of capital. I just didnt have the language for it.
Kwame Ture makes a similar argument when criticising anti-communists.
He rejects the idea that Marx ‘invented socialism’.
He argues that anyone observing and recording their observations on capitalism would come to the same conclusion.
In the same way as someone in Africa or Asia would come to the same conclusions as Newton by observing nature. (Roughly: an object will continue to move until it meets an opposing force.)
He is correct. Give all the credit we want to Marx. But the oppressed understood this before Marx put pen to paper.
Oh so we went from “Time travel to kill Hitler” to “Time travel to kill Marx”, huh? Guess they really do be taking the masks off.
Umm Hitler might’ve killed Jews instead of Mozlems but other than that he was fine! And really was killing Jews really bad? I mean they were probably COMMUNIST Jews, not good ordinary Jews who were in Israel!
Churchill has joined the chat.
Almost downvoted on reflex. Good job
“Yes, Karl, I know it doesn’t make sense, but I’m serious, I want you to add ‘Vaush sucks’ to the beginning of every chapter in Das Kapital”
Imagine Lenin essays peppered with dunks on Vaush.
Lenin would have to really bend down for that fruit.
I agree with his wife…
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Yeah but libs don’t believe in material conditions.
good old historical materialism
Written socialist theory (before socialism was even a word) trace as far back as
the bibleand ancient Greece.That famous quote “to each according to their needs”? Bible said it first.Not saying that the bible is some bastion of based thought, but just saying that even back then, a lot of the same ideas of what we call socialism had been written down.And more importantly, many tribes like the First Nations in North America, Australia and New Zealand, though they didn’t technically write theory back then, they actually lived in a way pretty similar to socialism before the Europeans came and ruined everything.
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Absolutely! It’s actually really pathetic how hard capitalist states try to stamp out tiny, isolated, self sufficient tribes. Guess they don’t want people to realize that humans can actually thrive in a fully communal environment.
This is also why I always get pissed whenever people claim that communism is against human nature. Moron, capitalism is against human nature! Humanity was all communist before feudalism and capitalism turned it all to shit!
Capitalism is such a great system that it requires most of its population to be as ignorant as possible so they don’t overthrow it.
“the bible is socialist” fuck off. That quote came from a parable about FUCKING SLAVES giving different responsibilities from a master that wanted HIS MONEY to be gained more, and the only slave that wasn’t a greedy asshole got punished to give all the little money he had to the other greedy slaves that made more money to his owner.
Wanna show every time the Bible treats people as property while Zoroastrianism condemned ferociously any sort os slavery?
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Not to mention the submission of women, racism (remember that Jesus compared a Canaanite woman to a dog, and remember how a dog is considered in the Hebrew tradition and the Bible as a whole. Also remember that “good Samaritan” was the equivalent of today saying “the good n-word”), how it was all about waiting for a magical happening for the end of the world, about never being revelious, about being faithful to masters, about not being “part of the world”, about how non-believing is the worst sin… People think that material history began in Industrial Revolution, and completely making a blind eye when speaking about fucking religion, like if it was something special, and never tackle where religion came from. Nice way to promote theocracist opportunists and alienate victims of religion (hence my nick)
Well we do have many examples of christian majority socialist countries. Well, we DID, since all of them except Cuba were destroyed and in all the fallen ones christianity was always 5th column.
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Yes, they absolutely reached socialist in spite of religion, my point was that religion is always at best wary of marxism, and is usually very hostile, and the hostility level is proportional to the wealth and influence of religion. Another point is that it was demonstrated and proven that christianity is not very compatible with socialism, not in theory nor in practice.
Mentioning Cuba again and broadly entire continent, i naturally admit that catholic church in latin America is better than in Europe, but it still wallows in bootlicking and support for dictators, and i wonder what would cuban church do if the socialist government weakened.
This isn’t a good take, there’s MASSIVE difference between primitive communism and scientific one.
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they can’t read, cuz that’d be too authoritarian for them
Babe, wake up, new death toll had dropped!
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I assume this is a fascist sub?
Doesn’t seem like r/worldnews
BUT… THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE.
Yeah, I wonder why his wife would do that…
