"People who make spreadsheets, people who make weather apps, people who just wanted to create family tree websites, all of them are being bought out, are being subverted, are being corrupted."
@fataliss
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Anybody down to create a Software Workers Union to promote and defend better ethics for and by the profession?

@sbvm
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I asked about this earlier today on another post and someone pointed at the recent Kickstarter union. I followed some links but I wasn’t able to find any details of how it runs and the benefits it provides. And it’s just Kickstarter employees.

I mean, I’m fairly happy at my company. I’d like to get better resources, open salary info but keep salary imbalances due to skill and sweat differences, make it easier to fire worthless employees, make it easier to find worthwhile employees, be able to strike to improve the workers’ lot at other companies that my company can influence but isn’t influencing, and maybe put enough people and funding enough best practices on projects that I feel completely okay with taking two weeks off and never checking email.

ant
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I am!

There’s also this https://techworkerscoalition.org/

@ray
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I’ve heard this buzzing around a bit lately. I don’t really understand enough about unions to say if it’s a good or bad idea but this stack exchange article had some decent discussions about it before it was locked: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/9481/are-there-any-unions-for-software-developers

@fruechtchen
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i like the idea, but am not sure if that’s the correct solution. like, it might be better people quit their job and turn to workers-owned small companies working on a better world?

and at the same time, promoting this idea instead of a software worker union?

However, the principle of a union (with strikes and such) would probably still work, i guess

@fruechtchen
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but still, i like the first idea better, because that can be better rooted in the society of developers. when you create a union, the step to get actual members is more hard compared to spreading the idea of “software developers have responsibilty. if you can’t change your company, quit your job. software devs find a new job easily”

@fataliss
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I’m thinking of union more of the likes of doctors, where there is a sort of certification to ensure you abide by some ethical rules and you can lose that certification if you break rules, but the association/union also backs you up in case there is a legal case against you while you played by the book.

Dessalines
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Saved, gotta watch this.

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