• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    If software is a service, then service can be denied at any time. Host your own infrastructure, and reclaim digital ownership.

    That goes for large businesses and individuals.

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      My company spent last decade automating moving entire organizations and all their software to the cloud. This decade weve been automating moving entire organizations off the cloud. Sometimes to private clouds but most of the time to on prem hardware just like the old n times.

      So many were sold a magical fairytale of huge cost savings and reliability but were greated with an entirely different reality.

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        I will never understand why businesses want to let someone else control their infrastructure. Putting your money-maker in someone else’s hands is just telling them that it’s OK to give you the squeeze later.

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          Because managers really like giving contracts to those giving a presentation in an exotic resort and have a great service agreement so all blame for mishaps can be shifted away from their career.

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            Also, at least in here, lease costs (like all as-a-service things) are considered to be flexible while own hardware and specially workforce are static costs. And no one wants to increase static costs, even if it’s clear as daylight that flexible cost only flexes upward over time unless the company suddenly shrinks by quite a lot.

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          In many cases, I’d say it’s because they aren’t IT or IT Security focused businesses. A pizza shop, clothing retailer, or whatnot, needs IT stuff to function, but that’s not the focus of their business. Hiring an IT team at IT worker rates is expensive, especially as a support/tertiary role for your business.

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          We moved out entire stack to the cloud, knowing full well we’re gonna bring it back in the future. We hosted our apps on traditional servers and server maintenance was a nightmare, we didn’t have the capacity and our application uptime is critical to our operations, so we strategically moved everything to the cloud so we can not worry about the maintenance for a bit while we took the time to rebuild our infrastructure properly with load balancing and high availability, and refactored our applications, we’re now slowly moving things back.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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          Someone else controls your infra no matter what. Say you’ve got a data center, you run all your applications on site. Great, until your ISP or electrical or DNS provider or registrar fuck you.

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        Whoever decides to trust Microsoft will always get burned. Amazon and Google not much better.

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          This case is the result of government sanctions, not Microsoft arbitrarily doing shit.

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            You mean besides abandoning whole fields of research and selling out to the government routinely?

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              I’m down to criticize Microsoft on things they actually deserve to be criticized on. This scenario isn’t one of those, though.

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                So if I paid a lawyer to hold certain documents for me, but the lawyer was afraid the EU would somehow hurt their profits, and then the lawyer said, you can’t have your documents, with no judicial review, no hold ordered, no orders, you think that’s ok?

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                  Companies operating in certain jurisdictions are subject to various forms of export control and other types of compliance policies when dealing with foreign entities. I’m sure this Russian company was aware of that when choosing Microsoft as their cloud provider. They probably should have chose a Russian cloud provider instead, though that might have exposed them to more of Putin’s corruption while protecting them from anti-Putin sanctions. Kind of a lose-lose either way for them I guess.

      • MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world
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        Yep, i’ve seen this exact pattern at three diffrent companies - the cloud repatriation movement is gaining serious momentum as CFOs finally see the true long-term costs versus the initial promises.

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      Yeah, it is very important to consider how dependant you are on third parties. At the very least the more dependence the more power they have over you. But also how screwed you are if they just go under.

      • If you use SaaS they can interrupt your use at any time and you can only react (for example demanding a reversal or lawsuits).
      • If you host closed source software they can’t interrupt service on an existing contract but can legally require you to stop using it if they don’t renew the contract. (And if the company goes under you can likely get away with using the software as long as it doesn’t need code fixes.)
      • If the software is open source you can continue using the software indefinitely including making code fixes. (Maintenance may be expensive as it is now your problem but that can be costed and an exit plan made if required.)
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    The new model is SAAH (Software As A Hostage). You would think that overpaid CTOs and CEOS would be able to anticipate something as obvious as this. “The Cloud” just means “someone else’s server”.

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    Now they’re going on a slippery slope. Just what EU needed to convince them entirely.

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      The EU pushed for Microsoft to lock the account because they were dealing with Russian oil. It was a Ukrain war sanction

      Or at least that’s what the article said.

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        The article isn’t really honest btw, it says indian company and very vaguely alludes to sanctions.

        Only a link in the article explains that it’s a Russian company dealing with Russian oil

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    One extreme defensive move for an enterprise would be to implement full redundancy for anything not hosted on-premises. Redundancy for data protection is relatively straightforward, but having multiple email, supply chain, or e-commerce services is very expensive and disruptive. What are the odds that it would even be needed? Whatever those odds were, they just became much higher.

    This is simply dumb. The odds are greater than zero. you must have a disaster plan. It sucks that MS did this but I don’t have much sympathy for anyone that decided to save money by ignoring DR.

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    You’d think russian assets would work harder not to be dependent on US clouds.

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    Critical Dependency As A Service

    For when you need to outsource the potential crippling of your business to potentially hostile third parties.

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    Similar to Microsoft cutting off access to the email server at the International Criminal Court. We need to get our shit together.

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    I swear to god I keep wondering when people are going to wake up to the fact that Cloud is such a fucking rip off on every level.

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    Idk I wonder how abrupt this actually was. Russia sanctions have been happening for a while.