What's your current desktop / DE look like?

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May I ask how’s Arch/Manjaro running on ARM? What’s your general experience with Linux on ARM? Also how’s stuff like battery life and performance on PineBooks?

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Manjaro ARM is awesome, it has great community support driven by the leadership of Strit. Linux on ARM is surprisingly usable. Since most of the tools that I use are open-source, pretty much everything I want already has official packages for it or AUR packages. If not, I can make my own PKGBUILD but that’s rarely ever needed. The only issues come with non-open-source projects. Things like the Android/Java SDK or VSCode extensions being closed source and only available in binary packages makes it impossible to port from x86 to Arm.

Battery life is awesome considering I haven’t even done any fine tuning (changing kernel governor, manual clockspeed throttling). I usually get 8-10h on a single charge which is really impressive considering it has ~1/3 the battery capacity of a Macbook Pro. Performance is adequate (compiling ffmpeg takes ~15m at -O2), the only issues right now are related to lack of hardware acceleration which is mostly due to the chaotic nature of kernel driver development. Drivers for video acceleration (Hantro G1/G2) are being developed by multiple communities simultaneously and alot of work is being accidentally redone since it’s hard to keep track of who already did what and what branch they did it on. The leading developers are the folks over at Armbian, the folks over at LibreELEC, aswell as Kwiiboo and Bbrezillon who seem to have done the majority of the work.

The hardware is capable of so much (even has Vulkan 1.1 support), it just comes down to the community working on drivers. Once these drivers are in mainline (and software is able to leverage it [FireFox with video accelerated decode]) I think the experience might be indistinguishable from a low-midrange x64 laptop.

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oh wow, that nice! one more thing, how’s the displays color accuracy and viewing consistency and trackpad accuracy and overall feel? And just overall feel of the device?

@AndreVallestero
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I’m not sure how accurate the colors are tbh (I never do any color grading or color accurate work). Viewing angles are on the weaker side of IPS displays I’ve seen (but this might be because it’s a matte display?) however it’s still much better than a VA or TN panels. Trackpad is the worst thing about the hardware, it feels pretty bad at fine movements and the palm rejection is not great either. The keyboard is great, about the same or better than a 2015 dell XPS 13 with very solid key stabilization, travel, sound, and feel. Overall, if it weren’t for the track pad, the device would feel like a ~$500 thin and lite notebook which is great. Hopefully more firmware updates get released to get the trackpad up to par with the rest of the system.

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Damn that’s cool… I remember trying linux on an arm chromebook a while back and having a lot of issues, but this looks legit.

Dessalines
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Oooh that’s pretty.

@AgreeableLandscape
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My current desktop is just normal KDE with the Breeze Dark theme, but I’m planning on switching to GNOME and have made a dry run setup in a VM. I call it my take on KNOME:

@Ordoviz
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The picture shows Sway, Waybar, Kakoune, Alacritty, and fishshell. The color theme is gruvbox, the fonts are DejaVuSansMono and Inter.

Dessalines
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Noice, looks good. :thumbs up:

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@AgreeableLandscape
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I see a lot of i3 setups with dead space between windows. Does this bother you when using it?

Dessalines
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Nah its not bad at all. Its a very popular fork called i3-gaps. But most i3 users use workspaces more than they do multiple windows on one workspace… terminal on workspace 1, browser on workspace 2, IDE on workspace 3… etc.

@k_o_t
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so it’s true! people actually do actual work on their arch rices!

@gregf
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FreeBSD-current, bspwm, urxvt, doom emacs

@k_o_t
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nice! what is this color scheme btw?

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Sorry for the long delay, it’s called base16-paleknight

@k_o_t
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nothing special at the moment, I’ll move to yabai once I get to recognizing battery and applying proper patches to get sound working on this damn hackintosh

it’s been so much trouble that I would’ve given up on it a long time ago, had it not been for the fact that I’ve already invested so much time in this laptop… :/

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off-topic and just FYI. Did you read on Mastodon (toot by feld @ bikeshed party or smth, weeks ago) that now there are desktop computers which can run as Hackintosh without any modifications needed ? Good news for H-tosh users !

@k_o_t
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no, not really, could you link it? And what do you mean by

without any modifications?

To be fair, the process with desktops is not that difficult now: everything is massively simplified if you have supported hardware, but you still need to do some work, it’s not a lot, but still…

My main issue is that it’s a laptop, which are a lot harder to hackintosh, and I’ve had tons of issues on basically every step…

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I’ve searched and found the bookmark of the article mentioned in that toot : https://infinitediaries.net/my-2020-hackintosh-hardware-spec/ I believe “no modifications” meant no editing of bootp files but not sure. My experience with Hackintosh is dated/rusty and limited. … having said that, good luck && have fun !

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hmm, unless I missed something, there isn’t really anything about the hackintoshing process itself in that post, but the author mentions that he used OpenCore, so it’s basically a standard setup with OpenCore, which has indeed become really easy on desktops :)

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Yes, you missed something indeed. Referred feld user on Mastodon mentioned the “without modifications” or something like that in a toot which I cannot find in my bookmarks. Thanks for the OpenCore info, I’ll keep that in mind for my Hackintosh friends and relatives :)

@k_o_t
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Wait, i’m confused, there’s a toot out there by the same person as that link about a hackintosh, but it’s not linked in that blogpost… then what did i miss?

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Don’t shoot the messenger ;-) I thought it would be nice to share this info with you. That one person on Mastodon tooted about Hackintosh, claiming that with that hardware setup no modifications are needed. That kind of got me excited because I know that normally creating a Hackintosh machine can be a hair pulling process. And that is all I know. I cannot find that toot anymore, so I can only offer you that URL that I bookmarked. That is all I can offer. Does that make sense ?

@k_o_t
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yup, thanks :)

I’ll search try to search for that toot

@nutomic
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Not very beautiful but who cares.

Serge Tarkovski
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@KitaitiMakoto
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Yes, I’m a Windows user.

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@KitaitiMakoto
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The secret is WSL, Windows Subsystem for Linux. I’m running Ubuntu 18.04 for terminal operations on my Windows machine.

@nutomic
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Not very beautiful but who cares.

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