@aev
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82Y

I like these rules. Maybe add something about adhering to applicable law.

In my experience(*): the stricter the rules, the easier it becomes for trolls to skirt them, the more admin time is abused. These rules look fine for now.

(*) I have been an admin of a fairly large online community and survived more than a handful of troll invasions.

@AgreeableLandscape
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7
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2Y

Why not just add a clause that “admins can remove any content they see fit without warning” as a catch-all for any loopholes that pop up?

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
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82Y

I think site wide rules should go in its own separate page with a link to it in the header and/or footer. That way we can expand on the rules and generally add more details about this instance’s content policies without taking up too much space in the front page.

@k_o_t
admin
link
52Y

No NSFW content.

🤷‍♀️

@nutomic
admin
creator
link
62Y

Right, wanted to change that to “no porn”. Fixed.

@k_o_t
admin
link
32Y

👌🏻

@AgreeableLandscape
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2
edit-2
1Y

What would count as porn in this context? Technically porn would include not just sexual activity but anything primarily meant to cause arousal in at least some people.

I am be happy with a broad definition of porn (as in anything meant to be sexual) being banned honestly.

@nutomic
admin
creator
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72Y

Yeah its a bit tricky and we will probably have to see on a case by case basis. My opinion is that non-sexual nudity is fine (we dont want to end up like Facebook and ban nipples or some bullshit like that).

@AgreeableLandscape
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2
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1Y

Just to be clear, Lemmy’s definition of porn includes non-image sexual content right? I definitely think those should not be allowed either and many jurisdictions treat it as porn all the same.

@nutomic
admin
creator
link
21Y

Not sure, its something thats worth discussing. For me its not about legality, but mainly that I dont want to moderate that kind of stuff. I wouldnt consider simple nudity or erotic text as pornography so those would be fine by me.

@AgreeableLandscape
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4
edit-2
1Y

At least ban the really gross stuff like sexualization of minors or other types of sexual exploitation/abuse.

@nutomic
admin
creator
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21Y

Of course, but that’s also clearly covered under porn.

@AgreeableLandscape
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3
edit-2
1Y

Those content can exist in forms other than images just to be clear, and all forms of them should be banned.

@developred
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@AgreeableLandscape
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1
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1Y

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@Quadle4
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0
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1Y

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@nutomic
admin
creator
link
11Y

no

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
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2
edit-2
1Y

I think it’s a good start, but doesn’t cover all the harmful content. You should also add “no harassment of other users”, “no pedophilia”, “no stalking or doxxing” and “no advocating serious crime” just to name a few.

@nutomic
admin
creator
link
112Y

We were trying to keep it short, and not list every single bad thing because nobody is going to read that. The things you mentioned are definitely not allowed, and are probably covered by “be respectful”.

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
link
22Y

I still really think we should put detailed rules on a dedicated page and just link it in the sidebar and footer. That way users know exactly what’s expected of them.

@mad
link
12Y

At Human Connection we worked out a code of conduct, maybe this can be an inspiration:

https://human-connection.social/code-of-conduct

It would be interesting to hear about experiences, what problem appeared, that the rules should fix.

@nutomic
admin
creator
link
32Y

Actually we have a code of conduct in the git repository, maybe we should just put a link to that in the rules.

/u/dessalines

Dessalines
mod
admin
link
32Y

Good idea, I’ll link that in the sidebar now.

@Tommstein
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-62Y

Well that didn’t take long, for the rules to become even more restrictive than the bastion of free speech that is Reddit. Should help adoption of the fledgling platform skyrocket.

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
link
72Y

What are you talking about? These rules are extremely permissive.

@Tommstein
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-22Y

I had just about finished writing a reply, when it spontaneously disappeared, and I’m not writing it again. Oh well.

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
link
32Y

Not exactly a valid argument.

@Tommstein
link
-22Y

Who posted an argument?

@nutomic
admin
creator
link
52Y

If you want freeze peach you can go somewhere else.

@Tommstein
link
-42Y

No shit. So will the rest of the Internet except the four softy fascists who need an even safer space than Reddit.

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
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8
edit-2
2Y

The rules are “no bigotry”, “be respectful”, “no porn” and “no advertising”. If you can’t even follow those basic rules then no one on Lemmy actually wants you here.

@Tommstein
link
-52Y

Which is fortuitous, because no one outside of the aforementioned four softy fascists is going to want to be here on Lamer Reddit either.

@AgreeableLandscape
admin
link
82Y

Basically you just want a safe space where you can be a hateful prick?

@Tommstein
link
-52Y

Yep, that’s exactly what I said. Also, that’s not what the term “safe space” means, but I appreciate the cute “nuh uh, you are.” A for effort or something.

Dessalines
mod
admin
link
42Y

The freeze peach havens, voat and gab already exist, you can go to them if you like.

@Tommstein
link
-42Y

Thanks for the info. And if I needed a safe space to protect my fragile little mind, I could go back to Reddit, at least they actually have users.

@AgreeableLandscape
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1
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2Y

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@pickleprick
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2Y

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