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  • @wraptile
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    44 years ago

    This makes me angry.
    The same guy who, Tim Berners-Lee, who constantly screams that “internet is over”, approved this in W3C. The quote about security is absolutely ridiculous too - oh no, someone will know I’m watching game of thrones! What are the risks here?

    Fortunately Widevine is maintained by google and eventually will be discontinued lol.

    Another hope is that we need to move the big guys like Firefox to keep malware disabled by default so it doesn’t seep into user standard and eventually disappear.

    Alternative I’d propose to trojan conspiracy this by raising a fund for open CDM library and purposfully leave backdoor bugs unpatched, but honestly I just see a DRM enable request and I turn off the tab, not sure how long will this last though. Funny part is that it doesn’t really work - all this effort and damage and your dumb moving pictures still end up on torrents and streaming sites hours later.

    • @LofenyyM
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      44 years ago

      DRM is about people establishing control over others. Everyone knows DRM has very obvious glaring flaws.

      The way I see it, we the people can build technology however we like it. We don’t need to care about what some standards body says. We don’t need Facebook, Netflix, Google or whatever. We can design websites and web browsers as we please, and choose to avoid garbage services. DRM isn’t going to be the end of us. We’ll always be around and we’ll always come up with something new.

      If some DRM garbage the Tim Burners Lee approved really would be the end of us, then it’d be totally miraculous what we’ve accomplished so far. We’re definitely not weak.

    • @k_o_tOP
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      4 years ago

      all this effort and damage and your dumb moving pictures still end up on torrents and streaming sites hours later.

      yup, but I think that the goal with DRM is not to make it impossible for people to break it, but rather make it difficult enough so that the majority of people will be discouraged from doing it, and then hope they’ll just pay for services…

      • @wraptile
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        34 years ago

        On paper maybe but that’s not how piracy works. There’s usually a dedicated sharing team and majority of pirates are leeches not copyers. By that I mean it only takes 1 person to get the drm for everyone to have it.

        • @LofenyyM
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          14 years ago

          One person to get past the DRM you mean, right?

          • @wraptile
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            34 years ago

            Right sorry for the typo. One guy cracks it - every pirate has it. Drm in web case only stops legit customers from downloading the content they paid for. Surely no one is downloading shows and sharing them with friends these days right? When it’s much easier just to torrent or stream it.

            • @LofenyyM
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              14 years ago

              Yeah, I see your point.

      • @LofenyyM
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        24 years ago

        This I think is quite likely. To make the path of least resistance to just give them money. It’s far easier now more than ever before. You hardly need to do anything now to perform a transaction.

        Convenience and the wiring of our own brains seem to be our own worst enemy sometimes. I think it takes a special kind of person to see the long term effects of just about any decision and to choose the right path based on that foresight.

        Even the best of us have flaws sadly.

  • @LofenyyM
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    34 years ago

    While it all seems doom and gloom, sometimes it’s best to take a step back for a moment. We’re in the 2020’s, a decade where federated services are starting to kick the butts of big websites. DRM has been proven time and time again to not work. We’re free to build things however we like. While the internet used to be much more open and free, it’s not entirely gone yet.

    We need to start with ourselves. Sure, liberating the masses sounds like a wonderful goal, but it’s too big to chew. We need to look at ourselves and ask ourselves what we need to liberate ourselves, build that technology and give it to everyone else. We’re already doing it as we speak. We’re on a pretty well made Reddit clone that will use ActivityPub in the future. I contribute to OSM, PostmarketOS and I’m writing a GTK+ alarm clock program so I don’t need to depend on the alarm clock on my phone. Will it use libhandy so it can run beautifully on the Pinephone and Librem 5? You sure bet it will!

    2020 is going to be an interesting decade, I can already tell! Let’s make it count!

    • @k_o_tOP
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      34 years ago

      well, there is that, makes me have faith in the future :)

      • @LofenyyM
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        14 years ago

        I’m glad to hear that! Imagine how the earliest pioneers of libre culture must have felt, having initially virtually no support. Look at how big we are now. We definitely are set up in such a way that it’s hard to fail!

  • DessalinesA
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    24 years ago

    One thing that I think is hopeful, is that torrents (which have pretty much solved the data distribution problem) haven’t been knocked out, and are going strong. Every new show that comes out, has sometimes thousands of seeders. People across the globe that don’t have access to netflix or streaming services anyway, are solving the problem in a holistic way that’s proven resilient against capitalist enclosure of the commons.

    To defeat DRM and all that, we essentially need an all-in-one web browser that bundles a torrent client and a media player (and maybe a vpn, maybe not).

    • @LofenyyM
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      24 years ago

      What about a web browser with a torrent client plugin with a media player plugin?

      Regardless, in a weird way, DRM has already been defeated. It doesn’t even work in theory, due to the fact that all DRM media content must, at some point, be converted into an analogue format which can be captured.

      • DessalinesA
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        24 years ago

        The torrent plugins for existing web browsers just use webtorrent, which doesn’t have anywhere near the # of seeders that udp / tcp / native torrenting has.

        • @LofenyyM
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          24 years ago

          I guess. I mean, it’s hard to make such a process any easier than it already is to be honest.

          • DessalinesA
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            24 years ago

            It does seem easy to us, but most ppl never leave the browser, just watching Hulu or Netflix or Amazon or YouTube.

            Right now the process for streaming torrents is still , click a magnet link, click download it order, open it in a media player. (or get project butter to consolidate the last two).

            • @LofenyyM
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              14 years ago

              What if project butter had a browser plugin for convenience?

              • DessalinesA
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                24 years ago

                Could work. I’m looking at popcorn time rn, and it has a search tab for just KAT and rarbg:

                I might see if I could add torrents-csv.ml to that.

                • @LofenyyM
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                  24 years ago

                  Haha to be honest, I’m not much of a pirate anyways. I was just giving possible solutions.