• @panic@lemmygrad.ml
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    How come Christians forget that their entire religion revolves around a figure that becomes human sacrifice to absolve the world from sin. Like, come on.

    • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      Not to mention public burning people at stakes and other executions for heresy and apostasy was nothing other than human sacrifices. Communion is also weird remnant of ritual cannibalism. If you belive catholics, it is actual ritual cannibalism.

  • Black AOC
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    232 years ago

    How many ‘Crusades’ did the Holy Romans fail again?

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    Followers of Yahweh also did human sacrifices, the Bible is full of instances of it, and even fucking Christianity revolves around human sacrifice.

    Least theocracist “leftChrist”, I guess.

    • @ArmedMinority@lemmygrad.ml
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      162 years ago

      It also explicitly condones and commands the murder and mass rape of women, the murder of gay people, the murder of people who work on weekends, and the murder of people from other religions, and on and on. The Bible is a barbaric book, and Christians aren’t at all better than any of the cultures they accuse of barbarism for doing the same things they do.

      • @VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml
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        132 years ago

        And it is NOTHING AT ALL socialist, for fuck’s sake! Zoroastrians fucking despised slavery, and it’s the oldest monotheistic/monolastric religion still functioning today! Jesus was a fucking racist son of a removed, and there’s almost no redeeming qualities in Abrahamism whatsoever! Fuck it, I’m fucking sick of Christians and etc pretending that their religion is something “leftist”.

          • That dubious character of Jesus, even said that the world of God to come, HIS WORLD, because he also presented himself as the representation of Yahweh himself, and to be prayed to, and to give money, because he was the new temple…

            The same character racist enough for calling non Jewish immigrants worthless dogs to even be helped, that said that washing your hands isn’t required, and that illnesses come from curses and not the material world…

            This same character which we even have no actual evidence of his existence, only heavily biased interpretations of history from believer historians… That kingdom, let me remind you all what he said:

            It was like being under the mastery of a very greedy and cruel master that wanted his slaves to make more money than what he let them save for him. Yes. The Kingdom of Jesus was described as being under management of a fucking CEO of Amazon or something like that.

        • @ArmedMinority@lemmygrad.ml
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          Exactly. His message of “maybe be nice to the people around you” is nice when you remove it from context and ignore everything else he says. He made it explicitly clear that he was here not to abolish but to fulfill every last law, which includes every disgusting, outdated law “progressive” Christians ignore. The rise of Christianity represents a shift in economic systems, from slavery to feudalism. Feudalism is very much something we must strive against, and we should not be looking to feudal philosophies and religions for guidance, especially not for a socialist future. We must look forwards, not backwards.

          As someone from a very religious, Christian background, I find it very frustrating that leftists cling to it so dearly. I lived real Christianity and there was nothing leftist about it. We must be careful, of course, to separate religious structures from religious proletariat, but we cannot tolerate the existence of religious structures. We must strive against religion.

          • Religious “leftists” are opportunists without knowing it.

            They are the exact same thing as SocDems for Capitalism/Fascism but for Theocracism. For some reason people act like history began in the Industrial Revolution trying to hide the reality of older, and even worse systems than Capitalism exist and existed and even function today, while also hiding it under obnoxious fallacies and obvious lies.

            If you believe that there’s something eternal and unchangeable that has to be prayed, then it is fucking reactionary no matter how you present it. It goes against Dialecticalism because it wants to be preserved at all costs, even to the presentation and practice of their values, being the most reactionary thing ever this practice.

            There’s interpretations of Nazism that go like “no, the Holocaust was bad, and stuff, but you have to read Mein Kampf in its context and not in a literal way to find the actual phylosophy of Nazism! We’re actually very progressive!”. Why the fuck are we fucking distinguishing fascism from religion? It’s because a lot more of people believe in it and we are scared? Is it because we have been brainwashed?

            I too come from a real Chriatian family, where the study of the Bible was obligatory, and while it has his own interpretation (because Christians are cowards unwilling to just read the Bible and letting itself to speak for itself, maybe knowing it handles no real utility, nor moral value, nor sense), I was able to understand the core beliefs of Abrahamism because of this. I studied the core beliefs of different religions without having proselites nor apologists over my shoulder telling me what to understand and with history books at my side to actually understand context. And the real, material context makes all stances of Abrahamism NOT better than fascism.

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              What’s interesting too is to study the origin of Yahweh. Just knowing it should be enough for cataloging all Abrahamism into pseudoscience and fraud.

              • What about his origin? I remember reading Jahweh was originally just one of the canaanite gods and and Israelites were one of the caananite tribes, therefore exodus is bullshit.

                • Yeah, and no Exodus, no Christ, no bullshit anymore lmao.

                  That’s why I said it should be enough to be considered pseudoscience and fraud lol. Even more once you know where the concept of immortal soul comes from, or even Satan (Aingra Manyu)

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          Islamism was an nice religion when it was pro science and a lot more progressive then the catholics, a lot of extremelly important scientifical advancements where made during the muslin caliphate while the catholics and europeans where having their brainmelting era of catholiscism. Its sad that the reactionarys where the majority after the caliphate breakd up.

          Edit, also judaism was a lot more prograssive then the catholics, it was then who where able to preserve tons of knowledge when the catholics started to burn everything from the roman era as “paganism”.

            • @Rafael_Luisi@lemmygrad.ml
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              I mean, compared to medieval catholiscism everything else gets less worse. Thats just how bad it was (and still is). At least muslin and jew societies where actually functional and where not the complete shitfest of the catholic church, and where also more internationally united.

              • More or less, depends on the context, and more than Medieval Catholicism, it was “Reinassant” Catholicism that started to get the shit show up… And I tell you, ask about this to ex-muslim and ex-judaist communities, your vision about it will be different, and I prefer the people under the circumstances show it to you, than to speak myself, since there’s little knowledge about it. There’s also the part of Lutheranism being a main reactionary force since its conception, how Orthodoxy peomoted the persecution of the Jews, etc, etc, etc.

                Oh, and don’t get me started on Shinto, Buddhism, Hindu, etc.

                • @Rafael_Luisi@lemmygrad.ml
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                  Religion is aways nice and sweet when you dont know more then the cover around it, but its generally complatelly fucked like, 95% of the time, the only non fucked religions i know are the more simple and cultural ones that come from african and american natives.

    • @Godless_Nematode
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      Nothing weird about worshipping a corpse nailed to a stick.

      • “Even less when pretending you eat its flesh and blood, and even less when you cast spells for pretending it ACTUALLY BECOMES LITERALLY the blood and flesh. Stop saying I’m not different from other ancient religions!!! 😭”

    • @VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml
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      132 years ago

      “Nooooooo this is getting out of context, you see!? It doesn’t matter that the Bible actually condones this practices! Christianty, specially Catholicism is the REAL socialism!!!”

    • @this_00@lemmygrad.ml
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      Also Things to add: witch burning and the french practiced cat burnings by putting cats into sacks and burn it in the middle of the street(cause they were seen as agents of the devil/entertainment for poor people)

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      Until the last bourgeoise becomes undistinguishable from a worker. Until the last noble and king abdicates their titles and are undistinguishable from the serfs. Until the las sacerdot become apostate and their believers atheists: No socialism will happen.