• aaron@lemm.ee
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    22 hours ago

    I hate Trump as much as you do, but there are millions here on false asylum claims riding the system for years. I don’t understand how CA spending money they don’t have is going to fix this. My position is that this country needs far fewer people, not more. I don’t know the opposing argument.

    edit: respond then

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      22 hours ago

      There aren’t that many asylum claims in total. In 2024, there were 800,000 pending asylum claims

      Media coverage about immigration is wildly skewed from reality

      They commit fewer crimes than US citizens on average. Even the Right-wing CATO institute found undocumented immigrants were 37% less likely to be convicted of a crime

      https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find

      They pay more in taxes on average than they recieve from any government services

      https://www.cato.org/blog/fiscal-impact-immigration-united-states (again a right wing source)

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          21 hours ago

          Slight correction, the 800k figure was a figure for new cases in a year (including ones that are no longer pending). Total pending cases is still pretty close at around 1.1-1.5 million depending at which exact time period you’re looking. That’s total pending cases

          Here’s it listed in a congressional report

          https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12492

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      19 hours ago

      I’d suggest you look into the effects of a declining birthrate, particularly in Japan, to see what isolationist rhetoric gets us. It’s also insane to blame asylum seekers or doubt their stories with no evidence for their asylum when US imperialism is what caused the collapse of many of their countries in pursuit of capital interests. Having desperate people looking for a fresh start with their families is demonstrated to be a short term detriment and a long term boon as well within single digit years, so in conclusion, you’re wrong about what America needs, wrong about what would benefit CA (the richest state), and seemingly echoing propaganda about both the word spending inherently not being an investment as well as refugees being incapable of returns for the bare minimum level of compassion.

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        18 hours ago

        Good for you. Are you personally affected by immigrants? I bet not. So, shut up.

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          18 hours ago

          Insane reply, but I appreciate the self-own in admitting this is all obvious concern trolling on your part. All of us benefit from immigrants on a daily basis…

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            18 hours ago

            Stop pretending to be a compassionate human while attacking victims.

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              18 hours ago

              “Won’t somebody please think of the Xenophobes like me?! I’m a victim of immigrants!” Keep going bud, you’re doing great explaining yourself here.

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            18 hours ago

            All of us do in a sense, but many of us are negatively affected. This is beyond your comprehension?