Tiktok cements it’s #1 status

  • Helix 🧬
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    252 years ago

    Holy shit, three of the top five downloaded apps are within the Facebook ecosystem (Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram).

    And further down you have Messenger and WhatsApp Business, also from Facebook (I refuse to call them Meta).

    That’s really awful.

  • Helix 🧬
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    102 years ago

    SHEIN on #19 is one of the worst apps for the planet due to slave labor and cheap clothes which are meant to be trashed instead of washed.

    • @TheAnonymouseJokerM
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      -82 years ago

      Shein is a hell lot better than fashion designer brand scams like Zara or Gucci or CK or Victoria’s Secret. You also need to substantiate on the slave labour part and how they cannot be washed, because I have seen plenty clothes purchased from there and they are washed regularly.

      • @rysiek@szmer.info
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        62 years ago

        People never learn. Until regulation kicks in and forces walled garden operators to interoperate, we’re stuck with walled gardens.

      • @TheAnonymouseJokerM
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        -32 years ago

        Better alternatives like… Instagram Reels? Or another Big Tech hydra head?

          • @TheAnonymouseJokerM
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            22 years ago

            Telegram is better than a lot of things, so what do you want for what is basically a public forum not from Western Big Tech?

            • Sr Estegosaurio
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              22 years ago

              Telegram is even worse than WhatsApp and that’s actually painfull to say.

              • Sr Estegosaurio
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                52 years ago

                Note: WhatsApp should be obliterated from earth with a flamethrower. (Facebook too & a long list…)

              • CritiGalDesist∞
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                32 years ago

                Can you guarantee the E2EE in WhatsApp? If not, then you can’t say one is better than the other

              • @angarabebesiOP
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                22 years ago

                Telegram client is open source, WhatsApp client is not. Telegram has a client for Linux desktop, WhatsApp doesn’t.

                I don’t understand the Telegram hate.

                • @Maturion
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                  12 years ago

                  Thing with Telegram is that end-to-end encryption is not enabled by default (thus only used rarely) and Telegram doesn’t really have any viable business model, besides being funded by a billionaire. That raises some questions. I really like Telegram, though.

              • @TheAnonymouseJokerM
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                02 years ago

                What uses do you see out of Telegram and WhatsApp? Both are not meant for the same purposes. One is a realtime blog/forum hybrid, the other is a messenger. Different purposes.

                You want E2EE? You have options exceedingly better than WhatsApp, called XMPP and Matrix. Both utilise OMEMO E2EE.

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    • @angarabebesiOP
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      42 years ago

      Their client software is open source and also on F-Droid and Flathub.

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        • @angarabebesiOP
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          Even if it was open source, how would we know they were really running what they shared?

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            • @angarabebesiOP
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              Signal is still a US-based entity, so I’m hesitant to recommend them to anyone

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                • Sr Estegosaurio
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                  32 years ago

                  I agree, we need something with the security level of signal and with the hability to federate. Or even better, make it P2P.

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      • @stopit
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        22 years ago

        Flathub isn’t open source though.

        • @angarabebesiOP
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          22 years ago

          isn’t it? I thought that was the whole point of “snaps bad, flatpak good” thing.

          • @stopit
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            12 years ago

            When I install flathub repository on Fedora, I’m warned that it is non-free. There is a Fedora flatpak repository, but it doesn’t have as many packages.

  • @benagain
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    62 years ago

    I logged into telegram today and found that all my data had been deleted because I hadn’t used it in 6 months. Like I get why that feature might be desirable in some circumstances but for me, I’m not using end-to-end encryption because I’m sharing state secrets that need to self destruct upon opening - I just don’t want the middlemen.

    I’ve been looking into alternatives like Matrix/Element, XMPP etc - it sounds like Element might be easier to get non-techy friends to adopt but it, from my understanding, has a fairly power hungry mobile app.

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      FluffyChat is a less power hungry alternative to Element. The reason these use so much battery is that they constantly check for new messages and don’t do it over the privacy infringing Google cloud messaging services, also known as Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM), if it’s Android. These are integrated into the system and work a bit more efficiently.

    • @Ghast
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      32 years ago

      Conversations is pretty user-friendly (XMPP front-end). Just sign up, then log in, like email. End-to-end encryption with groups is still as janky as a Windows XP server, but if you don’t need that, then it’s fine.

    • @jackalope
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      12 years ago

      The more direct competition to telegram is signal imo. It has a limit of 1k users versus the like 30k in telegram but otherwise pretty feature parity.

  • I always thought that people that used short video sharing apps went Vine->Dubsmash->Tiktok. Instagram, ofc, being a given, since Facebook is backing it.

  • @shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org
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    110 months ago

    For good reason. Out of all the messenger apps I’ve tried - open source, decentralised, or stuff like whatsapp - Telegram is THE best one imo. Fast as hell, great UI/UX, lots of customisation, nice features, and good bot support.

    I know some people dislike Telegram here, but among centralised apps their philosophy and track record is pretty decent imo