I saw this post and learned about gentrification; now I wonder if there are any plans to deal with potential gentrification of Lemmygrad.

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Was a bit of a weird article, but to the point, pretty much every leftist “big tent” subreddit becomes watered down very quickly, its revolutionary edge blunted by socdems, reformists, pacifists, and western supremacists.

It’s actually incredibly easy to prevent this though: have active moderators, that remove and ban these types, and don’t value growth over marxist principles. After a while, moderation becomes less vital as the userbase downvotes the reformist posts before they see the light of day.

r/antiwork never had a revolutionary message or goal in the first place, and to say it became “watered down” wouldn’t be correct. Also if the mods didn’t like the infiltration of “casuals”, as the article calls them, that’s no one’s fault but the mods. If you run a restaurant and let people smoke in the no smoking section, its your fault.

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Isn’t the main trope of /r/antiwork “my job sucks so I quit my job and got hired someplace else at 5x the wage where the boss is really cool”? Seems like a very absurd place at time.

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Yeah, it had roots in the anarchist “abolish all work!” movement, but their anarchist principles won’t let them moderate tons of these “I just got a new job and life is good now!” posts.

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You may also be interested in the word recuperation, which is probably the term that author was looking for but hadn’t heard of. As your wikipedia article suggests, gentrification applies to locations rather than cultures or movements.

This post about /r/antiwork has a small discussion of the topic. It’s good to see the admin below mention some of the same points.

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Recuperation seems to be the more accurate term.

I wonder how Lenin and Stalin dealt with recuperation in the Soviet Union.

This post about /r/antiwork has a small discussion of the topic. It’s good to see the admin below mention some of the same points.

I saw the post, but thanks anyway.

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Polemics against reformists, pacifists, and western chauvinists, constitute some of the best works in the Marxist canon.

Engels - Anti-duhring, Marx - critique of the gotha programme, Luxemburg - reform or revolution, Lenin - state and rev, the renegade kautsky, left wing communism, are just a few.

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I’ve read the Marx and Lenin perspectives, but not the Luxemburg and Engels ones. I agree with Lenin, even if my emotions disagree. (Damn autistic empathy…)

  • The powerful minorities never really allowed for proper change in democracies. (Just look at Ancient Greece as an example.) The same issue is happening under capitalism in Amerikkkca.

I’m also thinking about the possibility of the neurodiversity movement being recuperated by neurotypicals; there should be some limit to who is allowed in the movement, otherwise the movement will get recuperated and won’t have much impact.

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