• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    If by “value” you mean income it isn’t even tied to individual productivity. It’s tied to how much power or leverage you have to demand more.

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      The only way to make money is to convince people to give you money. If you wanna do it by acting like it’s because of some skill you have, that can work.

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        Producing value gives leverage. A salesman who brings in lots of revenue and profit can negotiate a pretty high commission, because controlling that level of revenue/profit represents some leverage.

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            To the person he exercises leverage over, who makes money on each sale made, and pays his wages/commissions? Isn’t that obvious? He agrees to sell some stuff, in exchange for money that comes from the sale.

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    Imagine a society where those setting the regulations are wealthy in such a way that they face no money related consequences. If they stuff up, or get into a tight spot with money, they’ll be a subsidy, or bailout, or sweet deal with a bank loan, or a wealthy relative, or they sell a property or a stock holding, or a mega yatch, or they’ll just declare that shell company bankrupt. They’ll never have a monetary problem that can’t be immediately resolved.

    …this class of people - those with essentially no financial consequences in life, are expected to make empathetic and caring laws, systems, and regulations for the rest of us, for whom money is behind literally everything consequential. For whom a small or temporary lack of money drastically changes us and our quality of life immediately and often with no real resolution.

    We have all the consequences they do not, they have all the power we do not. Nothing about this system makes sense, and it’s enough to say we live in a kind of Capitalist Monarchy, posing as a democracy of, by, and for the people.

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        Here’s a whole video about why that doesn’t work:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs&list=PLrttDbiWQ1XO1iHAszAsPobYSoR0uQg_1&pp=iAQB

        Basically all governments are required to keep certain groups happy to even consider getting into power, and some of that involves… Certain kinds of payoffs and deals being made.

        You can only vote for people who have already acquised to the system in order to get on the ballot.

        You can vote for people who promise some slightly more progressive version of the status quo, but that’s as radical as the system is allowed to get by design.

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          Videos like these are meant to keep you down, or in your couch

          You can get on a ballot. You just need enough people to support you

          Not voting or voting against those who would change the system is what keeps these dorks in power

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        Maybe support causes that oppose it?

        Think about all the money we funnel to twitch streamers and other influencers.

        I remember back in like 2010s people trying to crowd source their election and it just falls flat.

        Then you hear about pewdiepie buying his own private island or some shit and it’s dumb founding.

        It’s so gross when I spit piss at the DNC I get heckled to hell but if we took the time dismantle that machine we could effectively build something that easily out preforms it.

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        Voting is the least we can do besides doing nothing. Which makes it pretty disappointing that so many people will be all like “oh voting doesn’t do anything, we should tear down the government instead” and then they proceed to do neither of those things.

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    Breeders: I don’t want to be alone in the soul-crushing machine. Let me add another soul to it.