Gonzalo Lira was right, Nuland is a fake name, her father changed his name from MEYER-NUDELMAN (SCHMUEL MEYER-NUDELMAN) to cut ties with his heritage after suffering from his own father - who had to flee Ukraine because of tsarist pogroms. This is the trauma driving US policy here. current MUST READ

  • Water Bowl Slime
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    42 years ago

    I am poor ): Can you tell me more about the Nuland family’s relationship to Ukraine?

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      not yet, but according to Gonzalo Liras subsummation it describes the relationship between Victoria Nulands father Sherwin B Nuland with his father Shmuel Meyer-Nudelman. Their traumatic relationship is rooted in the frustrations and broken life of Shmuel Meyer-Nudelman who had to flee (Ukraine/russia, i guess eastern Ukraine). As of yet i am not sure to which kind of persecution but assumeing he was a wealthy jewish citizen, he could have been victimized by both sides, the antisemitic white armists who saw the jewish citizenry as the root of communism as well as the bolshevik revolutionaries who - since often from underclasses - saw jewish citizenry as kulaks or kulak allied.

      So basically her grandfathers trauma caused by some russian political event made him hate russians and it seems as if Victoria Nuland picked up on this trauma. while her father struggled to come to peace with his father, it seems the flame of searing hatred and intergenerational despair has been passed on to her

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        42 years ago

        That’s interesting. I wonder if Victoria Nuland was chosen to work for the Department of State because of this vendetta against Russia.

        • BreadbeardOP
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          42 years ago

          oh, of course, these people select only people from which they can assume a certain conditioning, dependency, gatekeeping or traumatic compensation that propagates their agenda in a given situation