These kids are gonna feel none of the blowback when trump wins and when actual palestinians ask them why they let the Genocide come here they’ll give some karen shit about how it’s the party’s job to convince them to vote against fascism happening here.
“Genocide Joe” seems like the perfect republican plot to make people abstain from voting because the deliberately leave out how Trump would make matters 100 times worse.
Biden is constantly challenging Netanyahu while Trump would deliberately hand them a full and permanent occupation of Palestine on a silver plate.
People already forgot that it was trump who moved the embassy to Jerusalem basically destroying the USAs support for a two state solution?
The GOP isn’t going to run on it. They’re going to use it as a tool to get people who would otherwise vote against them, to not vote or to vote third party. It isn’t about what their stance on the issue is.
Oh, you bet. Republicans are getting a big fat chub over this topic. This war in Gaza is the best thing that could have ever happened to them in the year long run up to the election. Wouldn’t doubt that China and Russia are also responsible for spreading the message to sow discord and doubt. For every person they successfully convince to stay home on election day, that shortens that gap between Trump and Biden by one less vote in Trump’s favor, not to mention the even more important down ballot races.
Forget trying to explain this to people on Lemmy, though. They’re not interested in listening.
Cant wait for 20 bad faith actors to drop in and downvote the shit out of u the second this post/comment starts picking up steam.
E: here they are! This post kicked off with 6 or 7 comments all echoing this sort of sanity, but here come the downvote brigade making it look like truth is less popular than fiction. Per the usual, calling it out angers the vlad supporters greatly. Of course its the usual suspects, too, come to defend their paid comrades efforts to fuck up our elections.
As someone pointed out before, its all goebbels style repetition of the same continually disproven points, but hearing it enough plants the seed in enough minds to where it starts to sound like truth.
I don’t think you understand what protests are. Protests exist to influence policy. If Mr. Joe wants votes, change policy, get votes. It really is simple!
Remind me how Mr. Joe is protecting trans people down in the southern states?
Remind me how Mr. Joe is protecting trans people down in the southern states?
The president can say “Hey Congress, can you make this bill?” but Congress has no obligation to listen to him. Unless trans rights are being violated specifically by executive agencies, the president’s influence is pretty limited.
It’s different with Isreal, in that Biden has to approve foreign aid bills made by Congress, he himself expresses support for aid to Isreal, and he has the power to make treaties (as long as Congress approves them)
Our government does not give him the power. I’m taking a class on the US government right now and this is literally just how it works. We give that power to congress and the states, and we can’t really change that without a constitutional amendment. This is with regards to trans rights in the south, he does actually have some more power when it comes to Israel.
“Um, aktually sweatie, if the Palestinians didn’t want US jets running sorties on the West Bank, they should have convinced the DEMONRATS to run a better candidate”
Don’t worry - just as “BIDEN HATES UNIONS” was the drumbeat before October 7, so too would they find some other excuse to make life worse for the oppressed if Biden cut off all aid to Israel tomorrow.
These kids are gonna feel none of the blowback when trump wins and when actual palestinians ask them why they let the Genocide come here they’ll give some karen shit about how it’s the party’s job to convince them to vote against fascism happening here.
Yeah
“Genocide Joe” seems like the perfect republican plot to make people abstain from voting because the deliberately leave out how Trump would make matters 100 times worse.
Biden is constantly challenging Netanyahu while Trump would deliberately hand them a full and permanent occupation of Palestine on a silver plate.
People already forgot that it was trump who moved the embassy to Jerusalem basically destroying the USAs support for a two state solution?
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It would be the ideal platform for the GOP to run on…if they weren’t also in AIPAC’s pocket like the Democrats and Biden.
The GOP isn’t going to run on it. They’re going to use it as a tool to get people who would otherwise vote against them, to not vote or to vote third party. It isn’t about what their stance on the issue is.
Oh, you bet. Republicans are getting a big fat chub over this topic. This war in Gaza is the best thing that could have ever happened to them in the year long run up to the election. Wouldn’t doubt that China and Russia are also responsible for spreading the message to sow discord and doubt. For every person they successfully convince to stay home on election day, that shortens that gap between Trump and Biden by one less vote in Trump’s favor, not to mention the even more important down ballot races.
Forget trying to explain this to people on Lemmy, though. They’re not interested in listening.
Literally the exact opposite, actually. He’s blocking the ICCs attempts to prosecute netanyahu.
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/4/30/headlines/biden_administration_claims_icc_cant_prosecute_israel_for_war_crimes
https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-arrest-warrants
Ewww… Sanity.
Cant wait for 20 bad faith actors to drop in and downvote the shit out of u the second this post/comment starts picking up steam.
E: here they are! This post kicked off with 6 or 7 comments all echoing this sort of sanity, but here come the downvote brigade making it look like truth is less popular than fiction. Per the usual, calling it out angers the vlad supporters greatly. Of course its the usual suspects, too, come to defend their paid comrades efforts to fuck up our elections.
As someone pointed out before, its all goebbels style repetition of the same continually disproven points, but hearing it enough plants the seed in enough minds to where it starts to sound like truth.
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Yeah, we should let Joe do genocide because if we don’t, Trump will do genocide 😢
Pathetic.
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Obviously Trump would be much worse. No sane person would say otherwise, and I do object to his campaign.
The point is, Biden has always, and continues to support the apartheid and slaughter of countless Palestinians. This cannot be ignored.
Right now, Biden is in office and is signing bills to send bombs to Israel which will be used to kill Palestinian families.
These protests are an effort to end such policies, and reduce funding to companies who participate in the genocide.
The protests are an effort to force Biden to make an effort to end this tragedy.
You guys will protest your way to a Trump presidency like a bunch of fools. Happens every 4 years, the rubes fall for the third party push.
If the democrats would stop supporting genocide then this wouldn’t be an issue
Youre scary when mad, i love it. Keep arguing for sanity amigo.
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Yes. Exactly. Because while Joe might do genocide there, Trump will do genocide here.
Or would you prefer to sacrifice your trans neighbors for your righteousness?
I don’t think you understand what protests are. Protests exist to influence policy. If Mr. Joe wants votes, change policy, get votes. It really is simple!
Remind me how Mr. Joe is protecting trans people down in the southern states?
The president can say “Hey Congress, can you make this bill?” but Congress has no obligation to listen to him. Unless trans rights are being violated specifically by executive agencies, the president’s influence is pretty limited.
It’s different with Isreal, in that Biden has to approve foreign aid bills made by Congress, he himself expresses support for aid to Isreal, and he has the power to make treaties (as long as Congress approves them)
Is the president a king? Can he unilaterally decide policies and enforce them on states? Where did you get your education? North Korea?
Our well-meaning but powerless leader, their iron-handed despotic tyrant,
Our government does not give him the power. I’m taking a class on the US government right now and this is literally just how it works. We give that power to congress and the states, and we can’t really change that without a constitutional amendment. This is with regards to trans rights in the south, he does actually have some more power when it comes to Israel.
You sure do love states rights.
Dude actual Palestinians are not going to give a crap for Trump’s ‘genocide’ in the US. They have a real genocide inflicted upon them to deal with.
“Um, aktually sweatie, if the Palestinians didn’t want US jets running sorties on the West Bank, they should have convinced the DEMONRATS to run a better candidate”
Don’t worry - just as “BIDEN HATES UNIONS” was the drumbeat before October 7, so too would they find some other excuse to make life worse for the oppressed if Biden cut off all aid to Israel tomorrow.
Whataboutism.