Cause it should. Rightwingers seem to have an easier time convincing religious people to join their cause. But if we had a way to pull in the religious people, it would be a huge asset.

All i’ve found is christian anarchism so far since jesus is sorta og antifa, but im not sure how to market that to christian conservatives. Any advice on this?

I think this mainly depends on how you define leftism, because that term is only used by Europeans and Anglos as far as I know. But we can talk about anti-imperialism, which makes things much clearer.

The resistance movement against US imperialism in west Asia is fighting at the frontlines of anti-imperialism, and is strongly muslim (just like the general population). This includes Iran, Syria, Houthis (Yemen), Hamas (Palestine), Hezbollah (Iraq), Hezbollah (Lebanon).

Venezuela is also anti-imperialist, and is strongly Christian, just like all of Latin America.

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Plenty of left wingers into esoteric stuff and Buddhism I guess. Christianity has been seen too long an enemy of the left, so there is little common ground. I think in south America there are some quite leftwingish Catholic priests.

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Yes, I think that is what the South American catholics argue too, but in Europe and the US Christianity is too entrenched with the institutional status quo. Personally I think there can be some common understanding even if it is ultimately superstitious BS ofc.

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very much yes, and thankfully it seems the era of anti-theist leftists is ending.

the Christians are probably the group with the largest and most successful leftwing groups. Socialist Christians follow the parts of the bible that talk about wealth distribution, wealth being sinful, etc. And generally follow Jesus’ example. I.E. whipping merchants, supporting everyone even if they’re sinful, being of a proletarian background, etc. They’ve had a decent amount of success in South America, but they’re everywhere. If a place has communists and Christians, the place has Socialist Christians too.

There’s also a large community of Socialist Pagans - moderating a group for the Pagan left is how I ended up becoming an Admin on Lemmygrad, actually. A lot of Pagan beliefs vibe well with Socialism, especially Asatru (or you might know more commonly as “Norse Heathenry”) and Celtic Paganism, though the others vibe well too. We believe in things like sharing food with strangers, being an honest and upstanding person and member of communities, etc. All things that should, at least in theory, direct a political person who’s not just larping in the faith towards the left.

Then you also have the Eastern religions, like Buddhism, Shinto, etc. I know less about these, but I do know people have blended them with leftist ideology in the past. Lemmygrad has a community for leftist Buddhists, that seems interesting.

Also, we can talk in vague terms. Religion isn’t just believing in a higher power, it can also be a belief in a variety of things that we can sum down to “spirituality”. People all over the world have blended their spiritual beliefs with their politics, I’d be surprised if there was a belief system in the world that someone hasn’t tried to make communist yet.

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I didn’t see the “but im not sure how to market that to christian conservatives.” part of the text until after hitting reply. Perhaps it was added as an edit, perhaps I just didn’t see it, i dunno. But I’ll give you an answer on that too.

The best way to get Christian conservatives to open up to leftism, is to have an honest and well informed conversation about their faith with them. Where you push forwards the parts of the bible that would help them lean left. Like the section of the bible that says something along the lines of “if a king hordes his wealth, that’s bad yo”. But, at least in my opinion, it’s not really worth it to try to convert them this way. That is, unless you’re ready to invest a lot of time into the process of it. Because they’ve likely been given right-wing Christian propaganda their entire life, and you’d have to get them to unlearn things that - to them - are the bedrock of their worldview. And that’s really difficult. IMO the best way, overall, is to talk to them about the vaguely leftist stuff that matters in the world rn, things like the strikes that keep happening, or stuff that you think they’d listen to you about, and slowly introduce them to a new worldview. The point isn’t to tear down their current worldview, but rather it’s to provide them a framework to shift to a new one on their own, ya know?

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mira es medio una poronga lo que propones, intenta no mesclar los tantos, anarquismo y religion son por principio opuestos, mas para las religiones de salvacion. lo que propones ya se da de forma masiva en america latina pero la verdad es que termina debilitando terriblemente los movimientos, en terminos de movimientos de masa la religiosidad siempre esta presente pero en el plano politico no y se la combate, siempre que sean organizaciones que desarollen la dualidad organizativa / soy anarko

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I know there is a christian socialist commune called Bruderhof that has locations in multiple countries. I’m critical of movements like this because by trying to build socialism this way, you do not create the utopia you think you do. You have to give them all of your property when you join, making it hard to leave, because you would have nothing. So it tends to be socially coercive when you have an economic constraint to the group and the groups religious rules. If you are a devout christian, it’s not a problem, but if you were born in the group and are at odds with the religious views, it can be hard for you. I think Bruderhof in particular is better about it these days because they give people who leave the group support so they can get on their feet.

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