• FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    America is a profoundly diseased society. What kind of sick, unfeeling nation reaches the point of denying membership to people born within its borders because of their parents? What the hell?

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      america is a diseased society, but most countries in the world dont give citizenship to people born on their soil. instead, they give citizenship based on “blood” descent. the place of birth system is most common in the new world.

      so yeah, the US moving towards the norm is bad, but the norm is bad and the US is still better in this sense than most countries. weird shit.

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        So if the parents have immigrated somewhere and have a child there while not having citizenship themselves, they have to go to an embassy and do a bunch of paperwork or something? Weird that someone could be a citizen of a country they’ve never been to.

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          Yes generally. If a couple in India are living in France (without being citizens) and have a kid there, they’d submit the child’s vital documents to the Indian embassy in France or possibly mail them to India so an Indian passport can be issued.

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    clear example of the political ratchet effect hauling the overton window rightward, and Dems are clearly complicit in the process no matter how much they claim otherwise

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    They’re anti immigration but won’t change any policies to reduce poverty and suffering and exploitation, so they’ll keep coming and coming. I wonder how many Americans are aware and would rather just be reactive than reduce their treats or they simply are incapable of thinking 2 steps ahead and don’t understand the correlation. Or perhaps they think the American lifestyle is natural and exists out of pure willpower and anyone can do it.

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      In my personal experience people are just too shortsighted and/or unwilling to accept the fact that the system of neo-colonial exploitation has lead to mass migration.

      Anytime I even start talking about systemic issues people just jump back to the personal responsibility bullshit that they’ve been propagandized to default to.

      It doesn’t help that all mainstream news media constantly drills the idea that there are migrants are dangerous gangsters to are out to hurt the poor wittle and pure whites and you’ve got a recipe for anti-migrant fervor.

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      In my experience they have no fucking clue how their treats are made. Everything is disconnected from everything else and happens in a vacuum. Random people are just showing up to the border to take advantage, no context or anything. They just fell out of a coconut tree. volcel-kamala

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    The more I see the more I think that the US and EU won’t have a revolution they’ll just balkanize and spiral into endless cannibalistic violence

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      Don’t be so cynical!

      It can’t literally be endless, we’ll all be dead eventually. 👍

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        Damn you’re right thanks for making me see the bright side of it!

        Unlimited genocide on the first world

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      europe is already balkanized, they never could put together a truly large polity after the romans… the only thing that saved their bacon was stealing everything they could from the rest of the world, and they fucked that up too.

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        I won’t be happy until all German landers are fully independent, Catalonia fully split, Corsica fully autonomous, and Brittany in a new Celtic anti-imperialist alliance with reunited Ireland and Scotland

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          oh why not go further? a homeland for rusyns, a free picardy, split belgium, italy gone back to being normal italy, hungary split entirely between slovakia and romania.