• tinyVoltron@lemmy.world
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      The rich own the people that decide taxes. They own the media that influences the masses. In many cases, they even own the prisons thereby giving them incentive to “encourage” lawmakers to make more stringent laws to put more citizens in prison. The rich own everything. Our entire culture is rigged to give them more money and more power. The only advantage we have is numbers. Sometimes, violence is the only choice. They certainly wouldn’t hesitate to use it against you. They would just get the “authorities” to do it for them.

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        Once the violence starts, it won’t stay focused on what “you” want. That’s the problem.

        Conservatives are snatching up every lower post they can, and democrats and progressives need to be doing the same. By solidifying bottom up representation, you have increasing influence over higher decisions. The left kneecaps itself and needs to stop. Fantasy about guillotines is a distraction.

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          Once the first billionaire is killed the rest will go everywhere with a phalanx of SMG toting body armor wearing security. They will push through laws extending the same qualified immunity that we hate with police to armed bodyguards and the politicians will roll over and let them because once killing the rich starts, they know they arent far down the list.

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            7 months ago

            Indeed, this is one of the spirals I’m referring to, but not the only variety

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          Once the violence starts

          You being privileged enough to not be personally impacted by it (yet, or enough to be willing to give up that privilege) doesn’t mean the violence isn’t already here, being inflicted on billions of people, costing millions of lives, all to enrich a tiny percent of the population that already has almost all of the power and resources, meanwhile you’re happy to sit there and criticise those who react to this oppression in self defence.

          What you are, is part of the problem.

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            You’re assuming a whole lot here. I’m not discounting the existing injustices, I’m saying vigilante justice spirals out. They are separate topics.

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        7 months ago

        Yup I’m usually pleasantly surprised whenever I see an opinion which isn’t extremist.

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      7 months ago

      How about police violence? That’s an american problem, but it’s getting worse and nothing is stopping it.

      Laws don’t affect them. How do you want to solve it?

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        I have other comments in this chain they acknowledge that. It’s a very serious problem no doubt

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          It’s almost as if the ruling class built systems of opression and now people ask to politely use those to fight back?

          The fuck are we talking about? Protest only if it doesn’t inconvenience the rich? Vote, because that’s exactly how we got here in the first place? Tax the owners instead of dropping the hammer for every life the corporation ruined?

          Yeah, don’t be too barbaric, violence will definitely go wrong.

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            If you toy with violence, they’ll show you how to commercialize it. I’m not enjoying or condoning that reality.

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              Hasn’t that already happened? I feel like you are trying to paint a picture we’ve had since forever.

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                  It will be, one way or the other.

                  Status quo will be broken soon, and we will see who will keep standing.

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                    I think it’ll be the ones with the military industrial complex, the financial institutions, and the globalized food networks.

                    Thus I want to change the system non violently.