MONTREAL – Quebec says it will hike tuition by 30 per cent for out-of-province Canadian students, to $12,000 a year, and wants most of them to speak French at an intermediate level by the time t...
Lol, “better integrate into society” says the province that refuses to integrate into anglophone society which is far larger and more important to international business.
I disagree with Legault but I also disagree with you. Quebec and New Brunswick have no obligation to become English monolingual provinces. But we also shouldn’t be discriminating against people based on language (any language) where we can accommodate, especially if it’s one of the official languages of the country or province.
French is only beneficial in France, Quebec, and a handful of small countries that France invaded 100+ years ago. It is absolutely irrelevant on the international stage which is why I find it funny that these anglophile schools are telling students French is relevant to integrating into society
Quebec an horrible place for anglos to live? Makes you wonder why more Ontarians move to Quebec than the contrary…
Montreal, Gatineau, Sherbrooke and the cities/towns around are all places where you can spend your whole life living 100% in English even though it’s not an official language. Find me the equivalent for French Canadians in a major city in Alberta.
Bilingualism in Quebec is at something like 90% for people who pursue post secondary education. How’s bilingualism in your province going? Just a quick reminder that there’s two official languages in Canada so it would only be logical that people be bilingual even if English is their first language, wouldn’t it?
How many different languages are spoken within a 1000 km of the UK? How large are those communities? How many of the people from other communities also speak English? Ask the same questions for Canada and the answers are 3 with any significant population, less than 10% for one and is spread across two countries while being the official language of the third country for the other, and the vast majority of them for two of the three countries.
The North American anglophone attitude is very pragmatic, as is the British anglophone’s. The same applies for the North American francophone attitude, although they like to complain like they aren’t a minority, both nationally and across the continent. And if a company from Quebec wants to expand outside the province’s borders, requiring their employees to speak French is going to reduce their candidate pool and hence increase their payroll costs, or their leaders are going to have to learn English which, as we’ve already discussed, they already mostly do.
You and I can talk about what we’d like to see, or how things should be, and we might even agree about it. But this is how things are.
They “can” but it’s rather useful as all hell to know English while living in Quebec. It’s a struggle to find anyone born in the province who is not bilingual for this reason.
I’m literally talking from an international perspective… The complete opposite of myopic. I support teams across the globe and mandarin and English are the two languages to learn to ‘integrate into society’ depending on which side of the world you’re on. And even in SE Asia, English dominates and individuals are fine working with translators if needed - Francophiles on the other hand have been the absolute worst to deal with and refuse to use a translator or uptake English for discussions (when they speak it) when dealing with others from all over the globe (where English isn’t the native language for others too)
Lol, “better integrate into society” says the province that refuses to integrate into anglophone society which is far larger and more important to international business.
I disagree with Legault but I also disagree with you. Quebec and New Brunswick have no obligation to become English monolingual provinces. But we also shouldn’t be discriminating against people based on language (any language) where we can accommodate, especially if it’s one of the official languages of the country or province.
French is only beneficial in France, Quebec, and a handful of small countries that France invaded 100+ years ago. It is absolutely irrelevant on the international stage which is why I find it funny that these anglophile schools are telling students French is relevant to integrating into society
English is also an official language, yet it’s perfectly ok for Quebec to discriminate against Anglophones?
Please read what I said again…
The question was rhetorical. They fucking do, it’s an absolutely horrible place for anglophones to live, and Quebec can go fuck itself.
Quebec an horrible place for anglos to live? Makes you wonder why more Ontarians move to Quebec than the contrary…
Montreal, Gatineau, Sherbrooke and the cities/towns around are all places where you can spend your whole life living 100% in English even though it’s not an official language. Find me the equivalent for French Canadians in a major city in Alberta.
Multiculturalism is when every culture is free to abandon theirs for British ersatzs.
Bilingualism in Quebec is at something like 90% for people who pursue post secondary education. How’s bilingualism in your province going? Just a quick reminder that there’s two official languages in Canada so it would only be logical that people be bilingual even if English is their first language, wouldn’t it?
Except at 49 years old, I’ve never encountered a moment I needed french. The same can’t be said going the other way.
Perfectly feasible to live in Quebec without ever needing English, we still learn it and bilingualism is much higher than in other provinces.
It’s just the Anglo North American attitude, even the British are more bilingual than Anglo Canadians and Americans.
How many different languages are spoken within a 1000 km of the UK? How large are those communities? How many of the people from other communities also speak English? Ask the same questions for Canada and the answers are 3 with any significant population, less than 10% for one and is spread across two countries while being the official language of the third country for the other, and the vast majority of them for two of the three countries.
The North American anglophone attitude is very pragmatic, as is the British anglophone’s. The same applies for the North American francophone attitude, although they like to complain like they aren’t a minority, both nationally and across the continent. And if a company from Quebec wants to expand outside the province’s borders, requiring their employees to speak French is going to reduce their candidate pool and hence increase their payroll costs, or their leaders are going to have to learn English which, as we’ve already discussed, they already mostly do.
You and I can talk about what we’d like to see, or how things should be, and we might even agree about it. But this is how things are.
They “can” but it’s rather useful as all hell to know English while living in Quebec. It’s a struggle to find anyone born in the province who is not bilingual for this reason.
It is very one sided overall.
Get out of major city centers and English is pretty much useless in Quebec but people will still know enough to get by.
Je m’en crisse!
The myopia is strong with this one.
I’m literally talking from an international perspective… The complete opposite of myopic. I support teams across the globe and mandarin and English are the two languages to learn to ‘integrate into society’ depending on which side of the world you’re on. And even in SE Asia, English dominates and individuals are fine working with translators if needed - Francophiles on the other hand have been the absolute worst to deal with and refuse to use a translator or uptake English for discussions (when they speak it) when dealing with others from all over the globe (where English isn’t the native language for others too)