So I said a few days ago that I would make a post on this issue, and it got delayed as I was running busy with family. Apparently some people like @helix got no chill. @Sightline@lemmy.ml, here you go.

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Nonetheless, whilst not getting too distracted from the birds, let me start off with a month long analysis of soferman’s posting and commenting, from a month ago.

I will mention that my guess is that they are a Western European in a country from GMT +1 to GMT +3 countries. Easy OSINT, backhand stuff for me.


POSTS

posting started 2 weeks ago

CBS, BBC, Guardian, Vice

more posting

more posting

NYT, Al Jazeera...

Liberal News echo chamber gets created

The Independent, damn

and thats the end of it

I think it is easily noticeable what the sources of link posting mean here, combined with the fact that Lemmy has a small userbase with a global feed that used to get spammed twice a day with this stuff for more than an entire week.

The websites are all pro imperialist news outlets with an inherent geopolitical bias over dissing on and running disinformation campaigns against anti-Anglo countries, particularly Middle and East Asia. These centralised news outlets consist of few owners, those being Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), Bilderberg owners, Murdoch (Australian media) and whatever is part of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), a CIA arm for creation and dissemination of news propaganda.

Moreover, there was being shilled heavily a biased fact checker called MediaBiasFactCheck, which takes ad revenue from Google Analytics and has factually incorrect ratings of non Western news outlets, as they use the classic tactic of omission of argument in favour of Western nes outlets and call non Western news outlets a kind of state propaganda. More onto it as I explain the…

COMMENTS

This is going to be hell. So I will try and get these out of the way first, so a better understanding of chronology can be developed on what the liberal echo chamber infiltration wants to achieve on Lemmy.

targeting post 1

targeting post 2

another targeting post 1 day later

I am unsure when creating a partisan political divide between a community was an allowed thing on any forum on the internet. Cannot remember any such chatroom or forum in the last 2 decades, unless it was some kind of Gab or Parler (where you would anyway feel cornered and unproductive), where at this point such a person would not be kicked out.

Anyway, admins and authoritarian defenders are fake, bad tankies! They must defend Western liberal democracy, bad people! Moving on to mister world champion’s comments on threads…

biden Afghan war thread

I love how our libman threw around the word “nuance”, trying to look proficient in this debate, while calling the Afghanistan basecamps a baseless conspiracy theory, which have been a thing since 9/11. Definitely libman is right!

Uyghur genocide propaganda pushing

This fellow compared the admin and those of us wanting to verify minority genocide evidence as media illiterate people and neonazis. This fellow knew extremely well what comparing communists and anarchists to neonazis means, which will be verified in later comments. This is crucial in understanding how this fellow managed to paint a narrative on Lemmy in the past month.

muh ancom targeted

To anyone who lives in a cave, they could atleast read and tell what is going on by now. But I assume most people seriously lack basic skills of connecting the dots, since nobody except me was screaming what libman was doing.

China bad narrative pushed

Our boy actually wrote “China is pretty bad”. Guess where this narrative flourishes? r/worldnews on Reddit, where every week one anti China post gains 70k upvotes and 30 awards.

painting others as neonazis and telling them to video call on Jitsi, creepy

Dude is super creepy, besides hellbent on dividing people into political camps. Surprised they did not even get a warning from mods or admins. Easily could have been a ban or warning on Reddit.

posts "Taiwan namba wan" story, does not care if Taiwan is a country, calls me defender of authoritarianism...

...while defending NATO founded by neo nazis, in a posted news link where NATO official berates Putin, totally unbiased

It is clear they do not care about facts. They are just propping up Western manufactured narratives constantly at this point. The more sympathy libman gains for West, the more critics get suppressed. Hivemind tactics.

Also note in the latter post how soferman ONCE AGAIN intimidates commenters, this time by pinging the admin (WOW) into a live video chat on Jitsi. This would be an instant ban on any subreddit.

Also they dismiss others with “haha facts/logic on your side” or :/ emoticon everytime they lose a debate.

dismissing critical thinking, and trying to shill centralised biased fact checkers

This has only one goal – to degrade quality of posters and posting on Lemmy, and make everyone a brainless shitposter like the ones you find on r/worldnews or r/woahdude on Reddit. This in turn will make Lemmy look like a junkyard to anyone that comes here and sees the mess, and make them “go back to Reddit”.

Russia bad , dissent suppression global trend - New York Times

A quality (shit)post. I am sure this was enlightening and not totally a propaganda news article to label any critics of Western democracy “bad people”. Not at all. Does not sound like Fox News at all. No worries, upvote and move on.

calls Grayzone fake news and calls me conspiracist for knowing BBC, CNN etc push false geopolitical narratives

This is peak Reddit behaviour. This is also beyond false. This fellow is simply a propagandist. Nothing else explains it.

Russia Belarus narrative pushed once again

Even the admins took note of it well by now. This fellow cannot be this naïve. It should be clear to anyone that they know what they were doing.

China lab COVID conspiracy narrative pushed

Timing makes a lot of sense, when Western countries are trying hard to revive the debunked conspiracy theory last September. Either they do not know facts, or are shitposting to create chaos purposefully among people on Lemmy who do not subscribe to debunked conspiracies. This Steve Bannon is the same guy who proposed a China-free global internet.

This news article posting cannot be conceived as stimulating an honest discussion. Not when you continuously post opinions by NATO, British, American citizens and so on, and no opinions of Chinese, Russian, Indian or non Western leaders.

purposefully shilling biased fact checkers over thinking for oneself

Anyone should be able to notice a pattern with telling people to stop thinking for themself, while telling them at the same time to become dependent on biased fact checker websites with funding and/or employment from Google, Facebook et al. People that fall for this become shitposters like those at mainstream subreddits. Even 3-4 people that fall for it become followers of soferman’s ideas. Classic scouting tactics.

However, MBFC fact checker got debunked really hard here, as some users started to get pissed off from what was obvious here.

once again victimising NATO, USA West nations and calling admin an authoritarian defender

I do not think anyone should need an explanation for this.

someone made a thread about these conflicts in community, asking for solutions

part 2 of same thread

I challenged them to answer a list of questions I had, and the propaganda narratives libman kept spreading, and they downvoted and continued replying to others.

another thread asking for decency in community

Ah yeah everyone is a tankie! What kind of joke is that, considering the controversy you have generated around you in the past month?

(1/2) 5000 word limit, check part 2 as comment here https://lemmy.ml/post/69058/comment/59514

  • @TheAnonymouseJokerOP
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    13 years ago

    Lol took too long to reply, but it does not matter to me.

    The thing with pizzagate was the targeting of Dems by Reps, and the liberals got to discard it entirely. I do have olenth suspicion and there exists evidence of such rings existing, and all of them are involved in it, not just one side.

    It is good that you learnt over the years instead of blindly accepting anything andnand everything. People strive to manipulate others these days.