So I said a few days ago that I would make a post on this issue, and it got delayed as I was running busy with family. Apparently some people like @helix got no chill. @Sightline@lemmy.ml, here you go.

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Nonetheless, whilst not getting too distracted from the birds, let me start off with a month long analysis of soferman’s posting and commenting, from a month ago.

I will mention that my guess is that they are a Western European in a country from GMT +1 to GMT +3 countries. Easy OSINT, backhand stuff for me.


POSTS

posting started 2 weeks ago

CBS, BBC, Guardian, Vice

more posting

more posting

NYT, Al Jazeera...

Liberal News echo chamber gets created

The Independent, damn

and thats the end of it

I think it is easily noticeable what the sources of link posting mean here, combined with the fact that Lemmy has a small userbase with a global feed that used to get spammed twice a day with this stuff for more than an entire week.

The websites are all pro imperialist news outlets with an inherent geopolitical bias over dissing on and running disinformation campaigns against anti-Anglo countries, particularly Middle and East Asia. These centralised news outlets consist of few owners, those being Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), Bilderberg owners, Murdoch (Australian media) and whatever is part of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), a CIA arm for creation and dissemination of news propaganda.

Moreover, there was being shilled heavily a biased fact checker called MediaBiasFactCheck, which takes ad revenue from Google Analytics and has factually incorrect ratings of non Western news outlets, as they use the classic tactic of omission of argument in favour of Western nes outlets and call non Western news outlets a kind of state propaganda. More onto it as I explain the…

COMMENTS

This is going to be hell. So I will try and get these out of the way first, so a better understanding of chronology can be developed on what the liberal echo chamber infiltration wants to achieve on Lemmy.

targeting post 1

targeting post 2

another targeting post 1 day later

I am unsure when creating a partisan political divide between a community was an allowed thing on any forum on the internet. Cannot remember any such chatroom or forum in the last 2 decades, unless it was some kind of Gab or Parler (where you would anyway feel cornered and unproductive), where at this point such a person would not be kicked out.

Anyway, admins and authoritarian defenders are fake, bad tankies! They must defend Western liberal democracy, bad people! Moving on to mister world champion’s comments on threads…

biden Afghan war thread

I love how our libman threw around the word “nuance”, trying to look proficient in this debate, while calling the Afghanistan basecamps a baseless conspiracy theory, which have been a thing since 9/11. Definitely libman is right!

Uyghur genocide propaganda pushing

This fellow compared the admin and those of us wanting to verify minority genocide evidence as media illiterate people and neonazis. This fellow knew extremely well what comparing communists and anarchists to neonazis means, which will be verified in later comments. This is crucial in understanding how this fellow managed to paint a narrative on Lemmy in the past month.

muh ancom targeted

To anyone who lives in a cave, they could atleast read and tell what is going on by now. But I assume most people seriously lack basic skills of connecting the dots, since nobody except me was screaming what libman was doing.

China bad narrative pushed

Our boy actually wrote “China is pretty bad”. Guess where this narrative flourishes? r/worldnews on Reddit, where every week one anti China post gains 70k upvotes and 30 awards.

painting others as neonazis and telling them to video call on Jitsi, creepy

Dude is super creepy, besides hellbent on dividing people into political camps. Surprised they did not even get a warning from mods or admins. Easily could have been a ban or warning on Reddit.

posts "Taiwan namba wan" story, does not care if Taiwan is a country, calls me defender of authoritarianism...

...while defending NATO founded by neo nazis, in a posted news link where NATO official berates Putin, totally unbiased

It is clear they do not care about facts. They are just propping up Western manufactured narratives constantly at this point. The more sympathy libman gains for West, the more critics get suppressed. Hivemind tactics.

Also note in the latter post how soferman ONCE AGAIN intimidates commenters, this time by pinging the admin (WOW) into a live video chat on Jitsi. This would be an instant ban on any subreddit.

Also they dismiss others with “haha facts/logic on your side” or :/ emoticon everytime they lose a debate.

dismissing critical thinking, and trying to shill centralised biased fact checkers

This has only one goal – to degrade quality of posters and posting on Lemmy, and make everyone a brainless shitposter like the ones you find on r/worldnews or r/woahdude on Reddit. This in turn will make Lemmy look like a junkyard to anyone that comes here and sees the mess, and make them “go back to Reddit”.

Russia bad , dissent suppression global trend - New York Times

A quality (shit)post. I am sure this was enlightening and not totally a propaganda news article to label any critics of Western democracy “bad people”. Not at all. Does not sound like Fox News at all. No worries, upvote and move on.

calls Grayzone fake news and calls me conspiracist for knowing BBC, CNN etc push false geopolitical narratives

This is peak Reddit behaviour. This is also beyond false. This fellow is simply a propagandist. Nothing else explains it.

Russia Belarus narrative pushed once again

Even the admins took note of it well by now. This fellow cannot be this naïve. It should be clear to anyone that they know what they were doing.

China lab COVID conspiracy narrative pushed

Timing makes a lot of sense, when Western countries are trying hard to revive the debunked conspiracy theory last September. Either they do not know facts, or are shitposting to create chaos purposefully among people on Lemmy who do not subscribe to debunked conspiracies. This Steve Bannon is the same guy who proposed a China-free global internet.

This news article posting cannot be conceived as stimulating an honest discussion. Not when you continuously post opinions by NATO, British, American citizens and so on, and no opinions of Chinese, Russian, Indian or non Western leaders.

purposefully shilling biased fact checkers over thinking for oneself

Anyone should be able to notice a pattern with telling people to stop thinking for themself, while telling them at the same time to become dependent on biased fact checker websites with funding and/or employment from Google, Facebook et al. People that fall for this become shitposters like those at mainstream subreddits. Even 3-4 people that fall for it become followers of soferman’s ideas. Classic scouting tactics.

However, MBFC fact checker got debunked really hard here, as some users started to get pissed off from what was obvious here.

once again victimising NATO, USA West nations and calling admin an authoritarian defender

I do not think anyone should need an explanation for this.

someone made a thread about these conflicts in community, asking for solutions

part 2 of same thread

I challenged them to answer a list of questions I had, and the propaganda narratives libman kept spreading, and they downvoted and continued replying to others.

another thread asking for decency in community

Ah yeah everyone is a tankie! What kind of joke is that, considering the controversy you have generated around you in the past month?

(1/2) 5000 word limit, check part 2 as comment here https://lemmy.ml/post/69058/comment/59514

  • @TheAnonymouseJokerOP
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    They removed their Lemmy profile just 4 hours ago, looking at the edits they made. They were a disgusting person, to try and sabotage this Fediverse project. I will continue to stand against such elements. Take this as a threat, lurkers. I will make some fruit squash out of you virtual monsters.

    Thanks for sharing that, I will read it. I am not the kind of person to get into drama usually though :p but you seem a lot more composed person to me.

    You might like reading my thoughts on internet communities I wrote at the end of 2020 https://teddit.net/r/privatelife/comments/k7vngo/2020_special_the_good_the_bad_and_the_ugly_my/

    • Sightline
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      Hey I saw your message yesterday and I plan on reading the link you shared, but this video from NowThisNews basically just said what we said. About 4 minutes in he talks about how “things changed” in 2015-2016 in regards to conspiracy theories and online culture.

      • @TheAnonymouseJokerOP
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        I saw the video, it is obviously less descriptive than what we know. There is a lot that happened, and only the ones who frequented 4Chan and these boards will really know the truth behind how this decentralised apparatus works.

        I will be honest with you, I fell for pizzagate back then. And I still think that even if the purposeful targeting of Dems by Reps and Qs was political, there is a lot of fishy stuff with Epstein, the private island, and photo evidence of the elite echelon that participated in parties there. Although, I am not falling for the Dems angle hook, line and sinker.

        Around the time Trump lost the election, QAnon team was found to have Trump’s associates on board. That makes sense with Reps earlier supporting Q heavily publicly.

        A study showed how disinformation spreads 6 times faster on Twitter and other social media, and so it becomes extremely easy for those proficient at infowar to manipulate and mobilise ordinary people, casually using social media like Instagram, Twitter and Facebook everyday, to believe in dumb stuff and cause chaos to hurt the notion of facts and discouraging critical thinking subconsciously.

        Be aware of that YouTube channel though, it has a heavy Democrat bias. This would sound very funny as a reply to your comment, but I am mainly telling about the echoing bias here.

        • Sightline
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          I will be honest with you, I fell for pizzagate back then.

          Well hold up, there was some fishy stuff going on. The problem is people were assertive, when the whole thing should have been simply investigated more (innocent until proven guilty, etc…). Here check out this video from a local CBS channel which raises some very legitimate questions. Don’t forget about the whole Epstein debacle which effectively proves that this stuff does indeed happen.

          Around the time Trump lost the election, QAnon team was found to have Trump’s associates on board. That makes sense with Reps earlier supporting Q heavily publicly.

          HBO has a docuseries about Q, you should check it out. A while back on Reddit someone said Ron Watkins (owner of 8chan after buying it from Fredrick Brennan) basically “admitted” he was Q, so I looked up the video and it does kinda seem to be the case. That video clip is from the HBO documentary.

          discouraging critical thinking subconsciously

          Yeah that’s the main problem. If someone presents me with reasonable evidence for something I’ll typically believe it until it’s proven wrong. I don’t firmly attach myself to any idea, and there is always a possibility whatever “claim” was wrong from the start. For example, I’d probably consider Isaac Newton correct until Einstein came along and proved him wrong.

          I can’t speak for everyone but I think one of the main reasons why I’m not quite as gullible is because I’ve been exposed to this stuff for 12+ years now.

          (note: I started writing this post 15 days ago, it’s kinda all over the place)

          • @TheAnonymouseJokerOP
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            Lol took too long to reply, but it does not matter to me.

            The thing with pizzagate was the targeting of Dems by Reps, and the liberals got to discard it entirely. I do have olenth suspicion and there exists evidence of such rings existing, and all of them are involved in it, not just one side.

            It is good that you learnt over the years instead of blindly accepting anything andnand everything. People strive to manipulate others these days.