hey folks, here’s another meta-post. this one isn’t specifically in response to the massive surge of users, but the surge is fortuitously timed because i’ve been intending to give a good idea of what our financial stability is like. as a reminder, we’re 100%-user funded. everything you donate to us specifically goes to the website, or any outside labor we pay to do something for us.

thanks to your generous support, we’re pretty confident we have passed our current break-even point for this month, at which we wouldn’t eventually need to pay out of our own pockets to keep the site running. that point in our estimation is about $26 a month or $312 a year. (please ignore OC’s estimated yearly budget–we don’t determine it lol)

our expenses are currently:

  • $18/mo toward our host, Digital Ocean. (yesterday we upgraded from DO’s $12 tier to its $18 tier to mitigate traffic issues and lag, and it’s really worked out!)
  • $2/mo for weekly backups
  • $4/mo for daily snapshots of the website, which would allow us to restore the website in between the weekly backups if need be.

for a total of at least $26/mo in expenses. this may vary from month to month though, so we’re baking in a bit of uncertainty with our estimation.

we currently have, for the month of June:

  • $70/mo in recurring donations (at least for June)
  • $200 this month in one-time donations

for a total of $270 this month. our total balance now stands at $331.31.

that balance means we now have about a year months of reserves currently, if we received no other donations and have no unexpected expenses.[1] the recurring donations put us well into the green at this point.

this is good! everything past our break-even point each month is, to be clear, money we can save and put toward scaling up our infrastructure. there is no downside to donating after we’ve already met our “goal” of basic financial stability. doing so will have pretty straightforward practical implications for you: fewer 500s, 503s, better image support (this takes a lot of space!), and the website generally being run on more than potato hardware.[2] if you’d like to do so in light of this information, our OpenCollective page is this post’s link. thanks folks!


  1. we will have at least one upcoming expense but its size is TBD, and so is how we’ll pay for it ↩︎

  2. especially during times like now, where we’ve likely been getting thousands or tens of thousands of hits an hour ↩︎

  • alyaza [they/she]
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    10 months ago

    minor PSA: we splurged a bit thanks to your donations and got slightly better hardware. you’ve probably noticed a more fluid website that’s erroring way less accordingly. enjoy! i’ll update this post’s numbers tomorrow to give you a reflection of the new break-even. thanks for using the site folks

    • @Mersampa@beehaw.org
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      1110 months ago

      It will be interesting to see how many users stick around. It’s busy right now but in a month you may be able to backtrack to the previous hardware.

      • alyaza [they/she]OPM
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        2110 months ago

        well, in a month we might be dealing with a second wave of users (and i think we won’t be short on people who will stick around), but yeah point taken lol. it does help we’re also not using a complex set-up, so “scaling up” isn’t a big commitment right now

        • @Mersampa@beehaw.org
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          1410 months ago

          I think it’s normal after a big surge to see participation drop off. If you can hit the critical mass to keep content flowing, that would be awesome.

          And at least in the short term, it’s appreciated that the site is now running much smoother! That’s also important for retention of users :)

          • alyaza [they/she]OPM
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            1110 months ago

            oh yeah no we’ll definitely see some (probably a lot of) dropoff, but if even 20% of this wave sticks around and starts contributing at all that will add several times over what our previous userbase was. we were pretty close to a point as a community where there’d always be activity of some kind, and this event has pushed us well over that threshold

    • @uthredii@beehaw.org
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      510 months ago

      I would like to know to what extent you are able to scale up the hardware. Is there a theoretical limit in the number of users that can handled?

      • Chris Remington
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        910 months ago

        There is room to scale the VPS immensely. However, we made a small bump to the next tier yesterday and things are working very well now.

        Is there a theoretical limit in the number of users that can handled?

        Maybe…I don’t know.