Interesting perspective by Drew DeVault on where the FSF fits in the current landscape of FOSS and what it needs to do to stay relevant.

  • @m532
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    1 year ago

    Just GNU. GNU is the OS. They don’t call android Android/Linux either.

    • @Prologue7642@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 year ago

      That doesn’t really make much sense. If you go that route, you could also call it SystemD/KDE/Firefox etc. You don’t even have to use any GNU in your Linux installation at all.

      • @m532
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        51 year ago

        There is GNU with and without SystemD/KDE/Firefox. There could even be GNU with another kernel than linux. But it’s always GNU, the OS.

        • @Prologue7642@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 year ago

          Yes, and there is Linux without GNU, I don’t really see a point in elevating GNU specifically. I would argue that there is much greater importance in the Kernel itself than in the GNU coreutils. GNU was maybe important historically more than other projects, but currently it is just a tiny drop in the bucket. There are many other parts of the system that I would argue are much more significant.

          Plus, even if you were right, it is just not practical. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone referring to any system as GNU, and very, very few as GNU/Linux. Everyone just uses the term Linux. Plus, it is much more descriptive. You could argue that today you can have GNU/Windows if you install cygwin, but not really sure if it would make sense to call it that. At that point you could say that Windows is GNU and for example Alpine is not. But I would really like to see someone argue that Windows has more in common with Debian, than Alpine has with Debian.

          In some contexts it might make sense to refer to it as GNU/Linux, for example if you are comparing it to a distro that doesn’t use GNU, but other than that I don’t really see any point.

          • @m532
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            31 year ago

            Android is not called Linux, macOS is not called Unix. Why would it be different with GNU?