Yes, in an ideal world, we would all live in walkable cities with great cycling and public transport.

But, particularly in North America, Australia, and New Zealand, we have been left with around 60 year’s worth of car dependent suburban sprawl.

In quite a few metro areas, the inner city has a great public transport network. Yet once you get out to the suburbs, you’re lucky to see a bus every half hour. Services often also start late and end early.

As a starting point, should there be more emphasis placed on upgrading suburban bus networks to a 10-minute frequency or better?

Better bus networks are less expensive upfront than large extensions to metro and heavy rail systems. And they can prove that demand exists, when it becomes available.

What are your thoughts?

  • @uthredii@beehaw.orgM
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    21 year ago

    These are good points. In general I think it is good to increase bus frequency everywhere.

    However I do still think that we should prioritise adding bus services to try and maximize usage (and stop as many car journeys as possible). Population density is definitely a factor here but (as you pointed out) so are other things like car usage in the area.

    • AJ Sadauskas OP
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      41 year ago

      Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m all for higher density and transport-oriented developments.

      But at the same time, there are still a lot of suburbs out there, and until we can retrofit them all, we should aim to get at least some decent public transport out there.

    • Christian Kent
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      31 year ago

      @uthredii @ajsadauskas Car Dependency ≠ Transport Choice

      It’s not really a war on cars. It’s a war on having no choices but the cars. Even the cars have a nicer time when the lanes are replaced with bikes and trams. Ask any Dutch car driver.

      Fine, ask any TV commercial for a car. Do you see other cars in it? Well, DO YOU?