• Arthur BesseA
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    01 year ago

    This looks pretty cool and I’m tempted to try it, but the fact that they have a discord makes me skeptical of the developers’ values.

    • lemmyreader
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      21 year ago

      Good observation. And not only Discord, but YouTube, Reddit Github and Twitter. Looking at their website design (and the name of the app, removing the word master became a thing with some open source projects, though not all) and this article https://safing.io/blog/2023/02/07/snowden-changed-everything this gives me mixed feelings. There is OpenSnitch to back though, which has landed in Debian Sid, and is available for Arch Linux : https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch

    • @Zerush
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      21 year ago

      That a company uses Discord, Twitter or another major social network does not mean much, they simply use the most commonly used networks. This simply has practical reasons, having contact with more users there than they would have in a network where only a tiny percentage of them participate. Perhaps with the massive migration to Mastodon and other federated networks due to the fall of Twitter, this would change in the future.

      • Arthur BesseA
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        11 year ago

        somehow i can forgive using the other platforms they use more than discord.

        i do understand the motivations for having one, but if they’re going to advertise themselves as a free software project they should at least be bridging their discord to matrix or something.

        • @Zerush
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          11 year ago

          Yes, maybe, but I don’t see a big problem, there are a lot of devs, even tose with FOSS projects in Discord, for example Andisearch, and some of the other AI projects, because include it`s fuctions in Discord itself, not possible in other social networks. For Example Midway or BlueWillow only works in Discord itself. That Discord tracks the user like FB and others, isn’t really a problem with extensions and privacy tools which almost everybody use nowadays to show them the middlefinger, even Portmaster itself, which blocks all this crap that pages like these want to put in your system.

          • Arthur BesseA
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            21 year ago

            Yes, maybe, but I don’t see a big problem

            If I used Portmaster, I would want to chat with the developers and other users and get involved with its development. But, I don’t want to make a discord account, and they haven’t bridged their discord to matrix, so, I can’t. I see this is a big problem for the project.

            include it`s fuctions in Discord itself, not possible in other social networks

            You can easily have bots on Matrix (or XMPP, or IRC, …).

            That Discord tracks the user like FB and others, isn’t really a problem with extensions and privacy tools

            🤦 yeah, no, it is still a problem. discord is proprietary software as a service, concentrating millions of people’s unencrypted communications in one place. If you block all the servers doing surveillance, you would be blocking discord itself.

            I refuse to give discord an email or phone number, or to agree to their terms of service, and so do many other people. By requiring the use of discord to participate in their community, the developers of portmaster are alienating the privacy-aware demographic of discerning technologists which might otherwise use and contribute to their software. They are communicating clearly that they don’t see discord as a problem, and that means that they are not people who I want to rely on to develop privacy tools for me.

            • @Zerush
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              11 year ago

              Also not a problem (no phone number needed and a fakemail for the account), apart you can also contact Safing also in his Blog, Reddit and via mail, not only in Discord.