I’ve heard it many times from liberals who either mean the revolution would be more violent than our current system (it wouldn’t be), or suggesting that communists claim that we will achieve utopia if we’re just allowed to commit much brutality in the mean time (obviously false). This phrase annoys me so much, not just as a utilitarian, but also as someone who understands the meaning of words, as they are either suggesting that (in the moralistic sense) literally nothing is worth doing, ever, or that morality shouldn’t matter because everything is immoral anyway.
Yeah, if the ends are reasonable (just wanting many normal people to not get kicked to the curb and die on the street just cuz the corpos need more money) and the means are logical (rational murder of the people on top that perpetuate this shit & maybe also to whatever lackeys they send at you while just being neutral to neutral parties), then sometimes the ends do justify the means.