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You asked what is the correlation. That could mean a characterization of results, raw data, or anything in between. Since you said you would carry a gun if everyone else is, I opted for a characterization since that logically means that you think carrying guns keeps individuals safer.

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I should have been more specific yes. Anyway the article is lacking very much because it does not show the correlation. Also maybe the correlation should be adjusted for the social isolation period that lead to an increase in things like mass shootings

logically means that you think carrying guns keeps individuals safer

Ah no. In a scenario in which everyone carries a gun, it only seems riskier to not carry a gun as well

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You don’t need to look far to find a plethora of studies linking firearm legislation and firearm injury but I suspect this isn’t really about whether its worse for society but whether your risk goes up and what contributes to the risk of firearm injury. Unsurprisingly, owning a gun increases your risk of firearm related injury in the same way that being in a country where guns are used to shoot at people (such as the US) also increases your risk. The harvard injury control website has some high level findings that are rather easy to consume if you’re looking for the biggest factors.

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Yeah. Still none of those report on 2015-2019. I’m aware it increases gun violence. I mostly criticizing the article for not making an actual correlation, which I find is an important information to add.

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What is it about the years 2015 to 2019 that are special? Located within the studies listed are evaluations of gun legislation, gun ownership, gun carry rates, and outcomes (notably spanning different periods of time and across different locations in the world). Do you believe that this does not adequately capture the gun related changes described in the article linked?

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Original article

adult handgun owners carrying a loaded handgun on their person doubled from 2015 to 2019

So one can hypothesize it might have had some impact in gun violence. It just does not look like it was a research question for the study. But this question interests me.

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The following is found at the top of the page on the third link

  1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review)

Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high-income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the U.S., where there are more guns, both men and women are at a higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide.

The following items 2-4 also address this

  1. Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide
  2. Across states, more guns = more homicide, 4. Across states, more guns = more homicide (2)

This isn’t the only study among those linked which compares risk factors of gun ownership and gun carrying across different locations in the world where laws and rates differ. I’m confused as to how this does not answer your question, as there is a plethora of literature which directly correlate gun carry rates with increased risk of homicide. The only difference between the linked article and the studies on this is the specific timeframe studied… is there something special about 2015-2019 that a doubled carry rate compared in another study would not adequately forecast or explain?

gaywallet thanks for all the links and resources I had already looked at them. I told you I was interested in that specific period because I find important to have such correlation, I already know about the existing increase overall. The way you insist on this makes me think you are assuming bad faith on my side which is not the case. I don’t like this.

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The way you insist on this makes me think you are assuming bad faith on my side which is not the case. I don’t like this.

Apologies, I’m trying to understand what makes this time frame unique- what you feel is not addressed by the existing studies. I did not wish to impart any feeling of attack or that I am questioning your faith, I am merely wishing for you to elaborate upon your concerns.

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