With almost 6 months of this war approaching, I think it’s time to kinda recap, reevaluate and redicuss this war. Curious what yous think about the state of the armies, the strategies of either side, what are your predictions, what do you think the goals are and who’s closer to achieving them?

I’ll go first and mostly talk about the Russian side to keep it shorter and because it’s the active party mostly.

Strategy

Honestly even after 6 months I find this incredibly hard to pin down. What are their plans with this war geopolitically and on the ground? Yes, we’ve heard “demilitarization” and “denazification” when things first started, talk about creating a multipolar world has since started too. But let’s be real, that’s all incredibly vague and the Russians really aren’t communicating anything more specific at all. The liberation of Donbass is the one concrete goal I can make out.

Do they want a landlocked Ukraine, destroy it completely, demilitarize and destabilize the entire West, just liberate Donbass? I don’t know and to me it feels like they didn’t start this war with a clear, concrete goal. Maybe they had one but didn’t anticipate the dimensions this would take, maybe it’s all going according to plan - I’m just unable to tell and to me it feels like nobody on either side is able to tell either.

What’s the strategy on the ground? Again, Russia is obv tight lipped about this, but I still can’t tell this one either. What feels somewhat certain is the following

  • The pace is absurdly slow
  • This whole thing has mostly become a positional artillery war of attrition
  • Russia is unwilling or incapable of sacrificing large amounts of men, civilians and equipment in big armored assaults
  • Size of the invasion force has been constant despite Russia being outnumbered

So where does that leave us? My most generous interpretation is that Russia is content with shelling the Ukrainians to hell, while fixing its own economy, doing its best to erode US and EU positions around the world and deepening their internal crises. That they’re unimpressed with the fallout of sanctions, they don’t care about completing things fast at all and really the kinetic war has been relegated to second priority, behind the larger economic and geopolitical calculations. That it’s useful, because the West needs to dig itself deeper into the mess the longer this goes on and because it allows Russia to demilitarize NATO at a comfy pace without engaging it directly.

The least favourable interpretation is that Russia is not capable of going any faster than it is currently, either because it isn’t viable politically (eg declaration of war, higher casualties) or it militarily just can’t. That they didn’t have a clear plan going into this, got caught off-guard by the Wests rabid response and now don’t have the means or the plans to end both the kinetic war and the fires it started.

No idea which is closer to the truth and I’m not going to be a smartass and just say it’s something in the middle. It doesn’t feel super well thought out and planned, it doesn’t feel like a panicked, incompetent adventure at all either and it also doesn’t feel like some mix of the two.

Predictions

Always hard to make in war and politics, but especially so in this war. Just a couple I feel somewhat confident in

  • This war isn’t ending this year
  • Ukraine doesn’t have and won’t have any offensive potential
  • Russian offensives on Kharkiv, Odessa, Nikolaev, etc are hopium. They won’t assault them, they won’t encircle them and they won’t besiege them this year. If they could or wanted to they would’ve done so early in the war
  • Bakhmut-Siversk line will take at least another month to take/break
  • Unless UAF collapses somehow, Slavyansk & Kramatorsk won’t fall this year

Fall and winter are approaching and I’d imagine that’ll slow the absurdly slow pace even further at some point. But I reckon winter will decide this war anyway with the economic and social crisis really kicking the EU in the gut by then. They won’t be able to support Ukraine past a point and Ukraine is simply not capable of surviving without foreign help anymore.

Other than that I only see a few options how this whole thing could change its dynamic. A declaration of war and mobilization, a collapse of the West, a collapse of the UAF or deployment of Russian reserves in Ukraine after the referendums to free up more regulars for combat. Last one seems most likely, but no idea if that’ll really change things that much.

Bottom line

Rereading this feels like a whole lot of “idk”, but honestly, despite heavily engaging with this conflict almost everyday for the past 6 months, that’s still pretty much where I’m at. It’s uniquely strange to me and just very hard to really make sense of - propaganda and fog of war certainly aren’t helping.

Keen on reading your opinions and whether you guys have been able to make more sense of it than my dumbass.

Cheers

  • @jollyrogue
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    32 years ago

    Western Europe never accepted the Russians, or eastern Europe really, so Russia in the EU was probably a pipe dream.

    I don’t see the US starting a hot war with China. Cold Wars over long periods of time are better for the defense industry, and they have much lower body counts. Plus, the US needs China. The US exported manufacturing to China in the '80s, and now they’re stuck. A hot war would cripple the US like China’s COVID lockdowns did.

    The US is in it’s own decline. It needs to quit sinking so much money into the defense industry, and spend the money of domestic programs. $3B to Ukraine was announced today. That money would have gone a long way to improving the lives of many people in the US.