• Breadbeard
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    now i did get into some brawling over this issue here, but i do agree with the answer, because it contains the underlying principle of sex work being work and workers in the current economy usually being subject to some form of coercive, abusive and (co-)dependent relationship.

    My control question is usually: who is assange to you. if they say “rapist/abuser”, then you know they have been brainwashed by MI6/CIA/NED astroturf and bellingcat influencers and are making the “sex-work equals rape” argument only to further condemn and smear Assange for all the corrupt nazi corporations and puppets in our endless-war-ukrainiannaziignoring-governments

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      A point on terminology, we Marxist feminists don’t use the term “sex work” or “sex workers”: that was a term coined by an indepently wealthy liberal feminist in the 60s who wanted to try out prostitution as a lifestyle choice. Most egregiously it tries to give “agency”, to the 99% of women and children trapped in the sex trade or coerced into the rape economy for monetary reasons. The term “sex worker” highlights the freedom of a tiny number of independently wealthy people, not the 99.9% of people coerced and kidnapped into the sex trade.

      We also take issue with the equation of “work” with the patriarchal domination and control over women’s bodies.

      We use the terms: the sex trade, and people in the sex trade to refer to our comrades trapped / imprisoned there.

      • Breadbeard
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        in principle i agree as this all is basic marxist theory about worker exploitation. and while libshit suffragettes do all sorts of whacky renamings and reframings, the problem remains that if it is a lifestyle, it is not work in the sense of an exploitative relationship anymore. at least they way i understand work and lifestyle. (psycho grindset sigmamorons aside - basically a propaganda meme created by rich ancap heirs…)

        i mean i take issue with “work” under patriarchal domination and control over bodies in general. and yeah, womens bodies are sort of overregulated…

        regarding this terminology i would would still prefer “human trafficking/sexual exploitation” as i see this is more appropriate of the actual situation of people subjected to such abuse. And yeah, in global terms they are the majority among “sex workers” (and it also concerns strippers and dancers in some regards the abuse of which often is contextual to their own economic/psychosocial backtround. I mean i know girls who love dancing and earned money for doing it in clubs & skimpy outfits. In many ways they sold their bodies and the club owner still got way richer, while they were being subjected to male fantasy of a small group of unberable morons within any given audience. but at least for them, security was provided and it was security, not a pimp. Was this situation exploitational? that’s more a case by case basis

        BUT… all of them told me that the margins from dancing in mens clubs to being subjected to abuse or becomeing a prostitute/porn actress are very thin, as usually, such etablissements are ripe with all sorts of drugs, predatory men and offers of easy money. which can be considered a perfect trap to slip into some abusive dependency for anyone not of clear and sound mind, with a titanium bar for a spine and a clear vision of why they are doing it in the first place.