What are you on about? I hate the USA. It’s an extremely corrupt nation, practically a dystopia. But I also hate China. It’s not black or white, you don’t have to like one to dislike the other. I would rather live in the US though, because they have some democracy and more freedom of speech than China.
Also just because Hong Kong residents believe it doesn’t mean they are right.
If Hong Kong residents believed US/Britain colonialism was right, your tone would have been different. Thanks for confirming your biases, and your “beliefs” of democracy in USA.
USA has plutocracy, while China is the one with democratic capitalism, even if the state is authoritarian there. You need to learn a lot.
China actually gives freedom to mothers and fathers to be able to go safely to a shop and buy diapers and food for their kids, without risk of being infected and dying because some anti vaxxers and anti maskers cannot roam around there.
USA’s toxic freedom ironically hurts the essential freedom of other people moving around in cities and elsewhere.
So yeah, China does have freedoms in a sense that actually matters, even if they are not being able to abuse a CCP worker without factual basis. (Actually you can criticise CCP by writing letters if a job has not been done eg. road repairs, broken sewage et al. They just prohibit Western propaganda bots and machines from working.)
I have no idea why you’re a CCP sympathiser. Even if life in China is better than the US that doesn’t change the fact that China is an authoritan regime who persecutes the Uyghurs, has no democracy and has mass surveillance to prevent anyone speaking out about them.
Just because you like socialism doesn’t mean you have to like the CCP. I’m a socialist and I think both China and US have extremely flawed systems.
So putting facts on the table makes me a CCP sympathiser? Typical American.
Atleast I am not an American apologist supporting child rape, hysterectomies, skin repigmentation or genocide of Muslims and blacks.
I can like the CCP if I want to, because they are alleviating 800 million plus people out of poverty. No democracy ever has done such a good deed, and all democracies are destined to become plutocracies as India (where I live) and USA are.
Has any democracy done such a good deed? Name one. I will probably start disliking CCP.
Firstly, I’m not American and I’ve said very clearly multiple times that I do not like America. Secondly, it’s pretty funny to talk about genocide of muslims as someone who likes the CCP, who are most infamously currently running genocidal “re-education” (read: concentration) camps for innocent muslims.
Democratic countries have enacted LGBT rights across the globe, including marriage equality and rights to adopt. They have enabled freedom of the press which has revealed and brought justice for many crimes. They have protected many from poverty through welfare programs, though it is well accepted that they could do much more. They provide millions with education and funding for scientific research.
China is pretty close to being state capitalist. That means that they do live in a combination of an oligarchy and a plutocracy. It is impossible to entirely avoid a plutocracy without eliminating money. China still has its billionaires and power is concentrated in unelected politicians and explicitly chosen businessmen.
You can appreciate the successes and shortcomings of both the USA and China. Neither is anywhere near perfect, nor is either purely evil.
But there’s no need to be a such a CCP fanboy just because I say:
I’d rather live in a country where I’m legally allowed to live my life as a gay man, adopt children and marry.
I’d rather live in a country where I can openly criticise the plutocracy they have and campaign for socialism.
I don’t want to live in a country where I’m not allowed to criticise the government for fear of being arrested, where I’m not even allowed to talk about tragedies such as the Tiananmen Square Massacre.
To correct your statement, China is not “genociding” Muslims, or all Muslims for that matter. Uighurs (not all of the 25 million) are simply being prevented from being radicalised by Wahhabis and ETIM.
What America is doing in Middle East is called genocide of Muslims. China lets most of them live a peaceful life, and the 1 million Uighur number is extrapolated by the nutjob Adrian Zenz. There are less than half of that figure Uighurs in their re-education camps at the moment. Compare this to the million plus blacks and Muslims in USA concentration camps where horrible things happen, and the millions of Muslims genocided in Middle East by USA invasion troops.
There is no evidence China suppresses LGBTQ+ people. Again a false statement.
They have enabled freedom of the press which has revealed and brought justice for many crimes.
So, freedom like Julian Assange or Reality Winner? Which one?
China is pretty close to being state capitalist. That means that they do live in a combination of an oligarchy and a plutocracy.
This is the most bullshit thing I have read in ages. China is the most capitalist country that exists in the world, and is the most meritocracy focused one as well. There exists almost no plutocracy when the whole country is about to be out of poverty by end of this year.
Plutocracy, by its core meaning, exists when there is a wide gap between rich and poor, where poor are unable to sustain themselves. Therefore, your statement is false.
I can definitely criticise both, but from what I am able to see, USA keeps lying and lying and lying all the time and justify their racism and international war crimes every single day. I wonder why there do not exist things like insane levels of bigotry or Karen culture in Asia or Eastern EU or Africa…
As a matter of fact, most USA states have a very shitty standard of life. Moreover the whole country is virulent now thanks to anti masker and anti vaxxer culture. California and New York are good examples. You are selling 2005 USA to me in 2020.
You can be an American fanboy if you want to. Again, you can criticise China as long as it is not baseless targeted propaganda. Either you are a loser troll or you simply hate CCP because that is what CFR media feeds you every night.
You’re using whataboutism constantly, despite me saying that I don’t like the US or think it is a good country.
You’re creating a strawman by claiming that I’m “selling” you USA
You’re ignoring the Uighur genocide, despite there being objective proof of its existence. This means I cannot engage with you if you accept ethnocide as something you will tolerate.
What are you on about? I hate the USA. It’s an extremely corrupt nation, practically a dystopia. But I also hate China. It’s not black or white, you don’t have to like one to dislike the other. I would rather live in the US though, because they have some democracy and more freedom of speech than China.
Also just because Hong Kong residents believe it doesn’t mean they are right.
If Hong Kong residents believed US/Britain colonialism was right, your tone would have been different. Thanks for confirming your biases, and your “beliefs” of democracy in USA.
USA has plutocracy, while China is the one with democratic capitalism, even if the state is authoritarian there. You need to learn a lot.
China is democratic? That’s a funny joke
China actually gives freedom to mothers and fathers to be able to go safely to a shop and buy diapers and food for their kids, without risk of being infected and dying because some anti vaxxers and anti maskers cannot roam around there.
USA’s toxic freedom ironically hurts the essential freedom of other people moving around in cities and elsewhere.
So yeah, China does have freedoms in a sense that actually matters, even if they are not being able to abuse a CCP worker without factual basis. (Actually you can criticise CCP by writing letters if a job has not been done eg. road repairs, broken sewage et al. They just prohibit Western propaganda bots and machines from working.)
I have no idea why you’re a CCP sympathiser. Even if life in China is better than the US that doesn’t change the fact that China is an authoritan regime who persecutes the Uyghurs, has no democracy and has mass surveillance to prevent anyone speaking out about them.
Just because you like socialism doesn’t mean you have to like the CCP. I’m a socialist and I think both China and US have extremely flawed systems.
So putting facts on the table makes me a CCP sympathiser? Typical American.
Atleast I am not an American apologist supporting child rape, hysterectomies, skin repigmentation or genocide of Muslims and blacks.
I can like the CCP if I want to, because they are alleviating 800 million plus people out of poverty. No democracy ever has done such a good deed, and all democracies are destined to become plutocracies as India (where I live) and USA are.
Has any democracy done such a good deed? Name one. I will probably start disliking CCP.
Firstly, I’m not American and I’ve said very clearly multiple times that I do not like America. Secondly, it’s pretty funny to talk about genocide of muslims as someone who likes the CCP, who are most infamously currently running genocidal “re-education” (read: concentration) camps for innocent muslims.
Democratic countries have enacted LGBT rights across the globe, including marriage equality and rights to adopt. They have enabled freedom of the press which has revealed and brought justice for many crimes. They have protected many from poverty through welfare programs, though it is well accepted that they could do much more. They provide millions with education and funding for scientific research.
China is pretty close to being state capitalist. That means that they do live in a combination of an oligarchy and a plutocracy. It is impossible to entirely avoid a plutocracy without eliminating money. China still has its billionaires and power is concentrated in unelected politicians and explicitly chosen businessmen.
You can appreciate the successes and shortcomings of both the USA and China. Neither is anywhere near perfect, nor is either purely evil.
But there’s no need to be a such a CCP fanboy just because I say:
To correct your statement, China is not “genociding” Muslims, or all Muslims for that matter. Uighurs (not all of the 25 million) are simply being prevented from being radicalised by Wahhabis and ETIM.
What America is doing in Middle East is called genocide of Muslims. China lets most of them live a peaceful life, and the 1 million Uighur number is extrapolated by the nutjob Adrian Zenz. There are less than half of that figure Uighurs in their re-education camps at the moment. Compare this to the million plus blacks and Muslims in USA concentration camps where horrible things happen, and the millions of Muslims genocided in Middle East by USA invasion troops.
There is no evidence China suppresses LGBTQ+ people. Again a false statement.
So, freedom like Julian Assange or Reality Winner? Which one?
This is the most bullshit thing I have read in ages. China is the most capitalist country that exists in the world, and is the most meritocracy focused one as well. There exists almost no plutocracy when the whole country is about to be out of poverty by end of this year.
Plutocracy, by its core meaning, exists when there is a wide gap between rich and poor, where poor are unable to sustain themselves. Therefore, your statement is false.
I can definitely criticise both, but from what I am able to see, USA keeps lying and lying and lying all the time and justify their racism and international war crimes every single day. I wonder why there do not exist things like insane levels of bigotry or Karen culture in Asia or Eastern EU or Africa…
As a matter of fact, most USA states have a very shitty standard of life. Moreover the whole country is virulent now thanks to anti masker and anti vaxxer culture. California and New York are good examples. You are selling 2005 USA to me in 2020.
You can be an American fanboy if you want to. Again, you can criticise China as long as it is not baseless targeted propaganda. Either you are a loser troll or you simply hate CCP because that is what CFR media feeds you every night.
I’m not going to continue this discussion: