• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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          That’s unfortunately not the right question for the situation the US is facing.

          The US election is a binary choice, so there is nothing that matters other than understanding which administration would make the process worse, and doing whatever is needed to keep them out of power.

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            What’s worse than allowing Israel to walk over every “red line” without consequence and then killing children?

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              • Restoring the Spoils System we dismantled back in the 1800s because it was corrupt and filled with cronies.
              • Oppressing gays and minorities in the name of ‘eliminating woke ideology’, like what is all over Project 2025.
              • Forcing Christianity down non-believers’ throats, like Project 2025 advocates for over and over and over again.
              • Enabling Russia to run roughshod over Ukraine.
              • Attacking people who look like immigrants, including forced deportations.
              • Forcing Culture-War Bullshit down our collective threats.
              • Attacks on the rights of women, transgenders, and gays.
              • Ignoring climate change.
              • Outlaw abortion.
              • Defund PBS.
              • Cut Food Stamps.
              • Push a law made by an anti-masturbationist in the 1800s…

              Oh yeah.

              • Encouraging Israel to walk over every ‘red line’ without consequences…

              Just so that you, the reader, know exactly what this poster is trying to get you to forget. They want you to throw your vote away. They are the bookish nerd girl working for the pretty but vile cheerleader to get the 51 Nerds to throw the election to the 49 Jocks by peeling off 3 of our votes. In fact, whenever you see posts like the one I’m replying to, remember. That’s what they’re trying to do. Make you one of the three dunces that let the 49 Jocks dictate to the 51 Nerds how things are going to go.

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                I think Democratic leadership and many in the national party would be fine with these things 🤷

                After all, they have no problem with killing children

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                  This should be seen as a violation of Rule 3 (Be Civil). The poster makes a particularly heinous claim, that Democrats as a whole are child murderers. It’s just as wrong as Republicans saying we are a bunch of baby-murderers.

                  This poster is not here to engage in honest open debate. It’s here to attack us and make us feel bad about ourselves, so we aren’t as comfortable expressing our political ideology. It’s here to make us ashamed of voting for the major party closest to our position. It’s here to make enough of us sit out or vote third party so that the Republicans could win. Is it doing so to serve the interests of Putin and Xi? Is it doing so because it thinks this is really the best answer to the problems that face the country? Is it doing so because it wants to see it all burn down? It doesn’t matter. Reader, if YOU want to ensure that you don’t want Project 2025 to happen, do not give this bad-faith poster what it wants and vote third party or stay home.

                  PS: Democrats aren’t killing kids. We actually do have problems with killing kids, but that’s just as true when it’s Hamas or Iran killing Israeli kids as it is when it’s Israelis killing Palestinian kids. We just don’t see a way out that makes this whole shitshow a fuckton worse. Keep that in mind as you read this bad-faith poster’s words.

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                    Lol you want to hide behind rules because you don’t like my message.

                    I didn’t say “all democrats,” I mentioned a subset of the party membership

                    In any case, so many showed up to clap for Netanyahu that it’s hard to think anything except that the party is perfectly OK with child killing

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          Do you think people here are stupid enough to buy this shit? If anything, you’re just pushing more people to voting for Harris.

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      Oh yeah. Forgot. There’s no other issues at play in a country half the world away.

      We (the US) are absolutely complicit in this atrocity. Thing is, we’re good at it and kind of used to it by now. Also, of note, we’re not the ones actively doing the killing. So we can’t vote and fix it. Best we can do is vote for a person who might fix it. Maybe. If every political issue aligns. But first duty is a vote to make sure I can vote again in the future.

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        We provide the weapons and financial aid with no strings attached, so we are absolutely complicit

        Harris isn’t going to fix it. She gave Netanyahu the luxury of a private meeting

        “vote to make sure I can vote again in the future”

        lol sorry but I if that’s really what’s coming then I don’t think the Democrats are against it; they would have pulled out all the stops to block Trump from even getting on a ballot.

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          You are just a bunch of fun with your lack of reading posts and all. You’re out here wildin’.

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      Actually no. One will not “allow” it, he will actively participate in it. Gleefully.

      You don’t give a shit about Palestinians. Stop using them as political pawns in your corny-ass, edgy teen-tankie bullshit. What you’re doing is shameful.