I know. But I trusted people here, just as they trust me, and had no clue how to rephrase it in this instance. People play those cheap cards all the time, which is why I attempted to phrase the comment well.
I am not a Sinophobe (many know that well here), but I really have trouble believing that there are merely 100K cases among 1.4B people, unless they literally locked people away in their homes. 100K is 0.071% for such a colossal population size.
I am having trouble picturing how China could have only 100K cases among 1.4B people. A 0.071% case rate is just too low for me to fathom it happening unless they literally locked people away in their homes.
That would have been a better start. That whole ‘I am not X’ construct has been poisoned by literally centuries of bad-faith use of it. Don’t use it.
I didn’t think you were an actual Sinophobe which is why I put it as a side note and addressed your points directly. (Had I thought of you as a Sinophobe I’d likely have just made fun of you. I’m just oh so weary of those motherfuckers.)
Two more questions unrelated to post if you do not mind. (I am curious because Indians are generally not interested in China, and I am an exception that is just too curious and Chinese diaspora views all of us as offensive. Also I feel very lonely as someone who is not aggressive against China in these McCarthyism times.)
What is the current consensus regarding Indians in China?
What is the consensus regarding topics like privacy, anonymity, Tor, censorship et al, since I advocate privacy stuff (r/privatelife, c/privatelife and also mod c/privacy), and China does not have the kind of privacy/anonymity culture like in Western “freedom” countries? I have never gotten an opinion on it from China’s perspective, and it is just a very odd question.
I can only speak for things I’ve observed or talked about with people, so my perspective is necessarily limited.
What is the current consensus regarding Indians in China?
I suspect that for most it’s not given much thought. Indian food is well-regarded as exotic, yet palatable. It kind of occupies the same space as Italian food in Canada (right down to being largely inauthentic). For a long time, Indian soap operas were a major hit on television. Nobody in my household watches television any longer (we’ve all switched to streaming to private devices) so I don’t know if that’s the same now. Several of my friends used to go to India once a year and loved it there. One of them wishes he’d stayed in India, in fact, because it seems he’ll never get back given the state of the pandemic.
So largely I suspect the opinions, on average, range from “don’t know, don’t care” leaning toward approval.
What is the consensus regarding topics like privacy, anonymity, Tor, censorship et al, since I advocate privacy stuff (r/privatelife, c/privatelife and also mod c/privacy), and China does not have the kind of privacy/anonymity culture like in Western “freedom” countries? I have never gotten an opinion on it from China’s perspective, and it is just a very odd question.
This is one area where the Chinese are definitely different from westerners. Privacy and anonymity are not huge cultural touchstones. While at the same time they cheerfully use the very kinds of services I’m using to circumvent the Great Firewall because the “Golden Shield” (to give it its proper name) inconveniences them at their work and play.
If you were to go on about anonymity here you’d get people wondering what it is you’re trying to hide, likely causing suspicion, not “HELL YEAH!” responses.
Very interesting insights, that helps. So privacy culture really is just a miscellaneous thing there. I know SOCKS5 proxy is used a fair lot, and VPNs are all government approved (correct me if there are any non government approved VPNs).
In India, we love Chinese cuisine and we like the twists we have added to chowmein, dimsums/momos (fried, and with mayonnaise and oregano), manchurian balls/fried rice and hakka noodles. Obviously we do not eat pork or other such meats.
There is a gaming community for Mario Forever, in which Chinese community is a very large part. Their creations and stuff also allows me to understand how their minds work. I am not sure you will understand this one probably.
Very interesting insights, that helps. So privacy culture really is just a miscellaneous thing there. I know SOCKS5 proxy is used a fair lot, and VPNs are all government approved (correct me if there are any non government approved VPNs).
Well, the one I use is definitely not government-approved. :D The regulations say that all VPNs must be government-approved. The reality on the ground … well, go back to that Twitter thread and look at the part about unruly citizens.
I know. But I trusted people here, just as they trust me, and had no clue how to rephrase it in this instance. People play those cheap cards all the time, which is why I attempted to phrase the comment well.
That would have been a better start. That whole ‘I am not X’ construct has been poisoned by literally centuries of bad-faith use of it. Don’t use it.
I didn’t think you were an actual Sinophobe which is why I put it as a side note and addressed your points directly. (Had I thought of you as a Sinophobe I’d likely have just made fun of you. I’m just oh so weary of those motherfuckers.)
I understood your approach.
Two more questions unrelated to post if you do not mind. (I am curious because Indians are generally not interested in China, and I am an exception that is just too curious and Chinese diaspora views all of us as offensive. Also I feel very lonely as someone who is not aggressive against China in these McCarthyism times.)
What is the current consensus regarding Indians in China?
What is the consensus regarding topics like privacy, anonymity, Tor, censorship et al, since I advocate privacy stuff (r/privatelife, c/privatelife and also mod c/privacy), and China does not have the kind of privacy/anonymity culture like in Western “freedom” countries? I have never gotten an opinion on it from China’s perspective, and it is just a very odd question.
I can only speak for things I’ve observed or talked about with people, so my perspective is necessarily limited.
I suspect that for most it’s not given much thought. Indian food is well-regarded as exotic, yet palatable. It kind of occupies the same space as Italian food in Canada (right down to being largely inauthentic). For a long time, Indian soap operas were a major hit on television. Nobody in my household watches television any longer (we’ve all switched to streaming to private devices) so I don’t know if that’s the same now. Several of my friends used to go to India once a year and loved it there. One of them wishes he’d stayed in India, in fact, because it seems he’ll never get back given the state of the pandemic.
So largely I suspect the opinions, on average, range from “don’t know, don’t care” leaning toward approval.
This is one area where the Chinese are definitely different from westerners. Privacy and anonymity are not huge cultural touchstones. While at the same time they cheerfully use the very kinds of services I’m using to circumvent the Great Firewall because the “Golden Shield” (to give it its proper name) inconveniences them at their work and play.
If you were to go on about anonymity here you’d get people wondering what it is you’re trying to hide, likely causing suspicion, not “HELL YEAH!” responses.
Very interesting insights, that helps. So privacy culture really is just a miscellaneous thing there. I know SOCKS5 proxy is used a fair lot, and VPNs are all government approved (correct me if there are any non government approved VPNs).
In India, we love Chinese cuisine and we like the twists we have added to chowmein, dimsums/momos (fried, and with mayonnaise and oregano), manchurian balls/fried rice and hakka noodles. Obviously we do not eat pork or other such meats.
There is a gaming community for Mario Forever, in which Chinese community is a very large part. Their creations and stuff also allows me to understand how their minds work. I am not sure you will understand this one probably.
Well, the one I use is definitely not government-approved. :D The regulations say that all VPNs must be government-approved. The reality on the ground … well, go back to that Twitter thread and look at the part about unruly citizens.