Government proposal to double ebike power has received a mixed reception with brands questioning what it will mean for the UK bike industry

  • Jake [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Add a freaking pair of tilt sensors to kill the power from wheelies.

      • Jake [he/him]
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        8 months ago
        I'm all for ya having fun and your right to hurt yourself.

        I am a former racer, commuter, and professional Buyer for a chain of bike shops. I’m also disabled from the crash involving the 6th and 7th cars that have hit me in the last 170k+ miles of riding. I only barely survived what I simplify as a “broken neck and back.” Cars making U-turns are what will get you if you ride long enough, especially commuting. It will look like just another person turning in front of you, you’ll compensate like usual, and before your brain can even register what is really happening, what was your normal escape route will close and you’re going to crash really hard. It is the only kind of crash that your intuition is useless against.

        I digress, because I care too much. My point is that I still ride on a dedicated road bike trail. I encounter children on their Power Wheels™ /s doing wheelies all the time. I even have many playing chicken. Any small head injury is likely to kill me. I’m actually not all that concerned about dying. I’ve been present for two crashes where someone died. These things haunt you for life. I’d rather not die while stressed over the impact my struggle has on you for that 30-45 minutes if I am conscious. It will change your life nearly as much as mine.

        Never do anything on a bike that requires anyone else to “trust you.” Every time you have a close call in a car or on a bike due to another person’s error, and you’re mumbling to yourself “fucking idiot,” that other person is saying to themselves or others “trust me, you’re fine.” Every time you tell yourself “trust me” you’re everyone else’s “fucking idiot.”

        No one is aware of all the things that can go wrong. However, I’ve been riding for a lot of miles. I know more than most what can go wrong. The most likely cause of my death on a bike right now is a naive child doing a wheelie. All it takes is a snapped chain, a fractured freehub pawl or outer bearing race, a tire blowout, a snapped spoke that causes a cascade of 3 or more spokes to break, or simple over confidence and a lack of balance. I have seen all of these things happen at least once.

        The only time I appear completely fine to the casual observer is when I’m on a bike. I’m fast; likely faster than you typically ride at with lithium legs, and have a top speed in the mid thirties on flat ground without a tailwind, - if I care to try. What you can’t see is the 10 years of spending most days laying down from not being able to hold posture, my constant back pain on par with a bad bee sting that never goes away or fades to background, or how I can’t turn my head left anywhere near far enough to see over my shoulder.

        The only way to help the issue of youthful irresponsibility on e-bikes is to develop a culture of shaming and shunning any fellow riders that endanger others on bike trails. That is a tough ask from youths that are notorious for a lack of well established and outspoken character capable of aligning positive traits through peer pressure. I type all this in the hopes that you are the exception to this stereotype.

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            8 months ago
            Which one. I've had 2 major collisions. Both were due to u-turns. Both involved vehicles that appeared to be stopped while parallel parked, and both were in areas where u-turns are illegal.

            The one that broke my neck and back was from a person making a u-turn directly in front of another SUV, on a downhill, in a turn.

            It was like the most stupid situation you could never imagine actually happening. The person was stopped, double parked. As soon as I saw the blocked lane a SUV was passing me in the second lane. I merged into the number 2 lane behind the SUV, and that is where my memory stops for 3 hours. Because of court stuff I know all the rest. The SUV in front of me never saw it coming and did not even brake as they tee boned into the double parked SUV that made a sudden u-turn in front of them from a dead stop with no warning. My GPS computer showed I dropped from 36mph to 29.7mph before the next way point was a great distance backwards where it broke off and landed. I’ve passed stuff like double parked cars many hundreds of times, but you just can’t predict someone this stupid.

            The driver was a foreign national asylum seeker from somewhere around the Mediterranean I’ll refrain from mentioning. They happened to be a first generation driver and had the measured competence of a US 3rd grader. Their license was restricted to work only, but they were self employed so the restriction was meaningless. Their driving record was atrocious, and they even got a DUI 2 days later while I was still under critical watch in the hospital ICU. In other words the poster child driver for fuck cars.

            Predicting just how stupid some functioning humans really are is impossible. Intuition lies to us about what we have control over in our lives. If we always held awareness of the potential catastrophes, humans would be completely non functional.

            I was known for riding safe. For a couple of years I commuted to my first bike shop job that was 26 miles each way by the most direct bike route. I rode that five to six days a week, the sixth being the group rides I lead out of the shop every other Saturday, and I raced a half dozen crits a year too. Even though the 26 mile route was considerably faster, and all was technically bike route, I rode a 33 mile version that maximized my time on dedicated bike trails even though it meant more hills too. I was also the guy that would fall back in the group ride to help newbies or help people learn to ride in a group. I was very cautious, a stop at all the stop signs type of roadie. I’ve been hit in other ways, but those are insignificant. U-turns are the biggest danger for the regular rider and commuter.

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              8 months ago

              Damn man, that’s rough.

              U-turns are quite a dangerous manoeuvre and really need to be executed properly to ensure safety.

              I remember taking my Colorado drivers licence and it wasn’t covered at all in the written/practical exam. I practiced a couple times at traffic lights with a turn arrow with my parents but that was it.

              For my Dutch lesson license (we rent a car a few times a year) u-turns and 3-pt turns were covered extensively. How fast you are going and which mirrors you’re checking in which order. They also test these “special manoeuvres” in the practical exam in a very healthy way. The roads also have a lot more medians which helps blunt driver stupidity.

              Cars are the worst…